Amir Haleem: Helium – The People's Wireless Network

In this episode, Sebastien is joined by Jelena Djuric, co-founder of Noble, a generic asset issuance chain built for the Cosmos ecosystem. Jelena shares her journey into crypto, which began with an interest in political science, leading her to discover Bitcoin's potential. She describes the origins of Noble, created to solve a critical need within Cosmos: a native, fungible source of liquidity like USDC.Before Noble, assets were often bridged in fragmented ways, creating poor user experiences. Noble was designed as a simple, secure, and neutral "asset issuance hub," a purpose-built chain for natively issuing assets and distributing them throughout the Cosmos network via IBC.Jelena emphasizes that Noble is intentionally "boring," with a minimal feature set to reduce the attack surface. It operates with a proof-of-authority consensus model to meet the compliance needs of asset issuers like Circle. Jelena also discusses the importance of CCTP for moving USDC between Cosmos and other ecosystems, with Noble as the routing hub. Looking ahead, Jelena sees a future where Noble supports a diverse range of assets beyond stablecoins, including RWAs.Topics discussed in this episode: Introduction Jelena's background and entry into crypto Why fragmented liquidity is holding crypto back Noble's vision for unifying liquidity Why a "boring" chain is a more secure chain Noble's proof-of-authority model for issuer trust Bringing a single source of truth for USDC to the Interchain Using CCTP to connect liquidity across ecosystems Noble's business model The future of solving liquidity for RWAsLinks mentioned in this episode: Jelena Djuric, Co-Founder, Noble: https://x.com/jelena_noble Noble: https://x.com/noble_xyz Sponsors: Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at gnosis.io This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture.

In this episode, Sebastien Couture is joined by Benjamin, the founder of CAP, a stablecoin protocol designed to provide insured yield. The protocol features two main products: CUSD, a digital dollar, and stCUSD, its staked, yield-bearing version. Yield is generated through an "allocation engine" where third-party operators borrow from the protocol's reserve to execute yield strategies. To ensure user deposits, these operators must be vouched for by restakers on protocols like Symbiotic. If an operator defaults, the restakers who vouched for them are slashed, protecting the stablecoin holders' funds. This model shifts risk from the end-user to the restakers, who have a bilateral relationship with the operators they underwrite, often backed by legal agreements.Topics covered in this episode:Benjamin's background and perspective on ChinaJourney into crypto and stablecoinsHot Take: Stablecoins are not as safe as you thinkThe evolution of stablecoin modelsHas DeFi forgotten about decentralization?CAP's design: CUSD and stCUSDHow CAP generates yield with operators and restakersThe role of restakers and legal agreementsIntegrating with Symbiotic and views on EigenLayerThe best use cases for shared securityNavigating the Genius Act and global regulationsRebuilding trust in the DeFi ecosystemWhy the stablecoin space is not too crowdedEpisode links:Benjamin on XCap MoneySponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioThis episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/618

TradFi FX markets are slow, expensive and often lack liquidity for direct swaps between different world currencies, having to route through USD pairs. While crypto could technically solve pairing through AMM pools, those needed to be arbitraged in order to reflect TradFi rates. With 15 fully-backed stablecoins, Mento is building the largest FX infrastructure, bringing world currencies onchain through its robust multi-currency stablecoin platform. In order to provide traders with accurate real-word FX rates, Mento employs FPMM (fixed-price market makers) which gather offchain data from multiple oracles. Instant settlement, cross-border, at a fraction of a cost of conventional remittance providers, while also avoiding traditional banking limitations.Backed by strong on- & off-ramp integrations, Mento also caters towards day-to-day use cases, empowering locals and businesses to diversify their FX exposure without the hurdles of TradFi. Mento enables smooth cross-currency transactions without traditional banking limitations, unlocking DeFi yield for a wide variety of currencies.Topics covered in this episode:Markus’ background, from TradFi to DeFiUnbanking the bankedStarting a stablecoin protocol on CeloThe role of stablecoinsFX markets & Mento’s designFPMM vs. AMMMento’s target audienceCentralised vs. decentralised stablecoinsMento governanceM0’s approachIntegrating with banking systemsEpisode links:⁠Markus Franke on XMento on XCelo on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - ⁠⁠gnosis.io⁠⁠This episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst.

Without a doubt, the introduction of stablecoins has vastly increased overall crypto liquidity, adoption and real-world use cases as they offered a safe haven against the industry’s volatility, especially during bearmarkets. However, despite being extremely efficient, the main stablecoin actors (i.e. Circle & Tether) are centralised entities. Many attempts have been made to create a reliable decentralised stablecoin, but regulations and the resounding collapse of Terra’s UST have only pushed towards more established, yet centralised, variants.f(x) is a new generation CDP (collateralised debt position) protocol that offers on-chain perpetual trading for BTC & ETH with near-0 funding rates and a novel liquidation mechanism which protects users against hard liquidations. The leverage component is powered by emitting fxUSD, the protocol’s decentralised stablecoin, which boasts robust peg-keeping mechanisms, the main one being fxSAVE’s stability pool. The fxSAVE strategy bestows nearly 10% APY to the yield-bearing fxUSD-USDC pair.Topics covered in this episode:Cyrille’s backgroundAladdinDAODecentralised stablecoinsf(x) perps and sharing liquidation risksThe efficiency of progressive liquidationsRemoving funding ratesfxSAVE’s stability pool yieldsfxUSD’s organic adoptionThe importance of decentralised stablecoinsWinning in the perp arenaOpportunities in the stablecoin adoption raceEpisode links:Cyrille Brière on Xf(x) Protocol on XAladdinDAO on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - ⁠gnosis.io⁠This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture.

Euler is a DeFi lending protocol built around the idea of permissionless modularity, enabling users to lend and borrow almost any crypto asset with flexible, permissionless pools, tailored to individual risk profiles. Moreover, Euler Vault Kit (EVK) and Ethereum Vault Connector (EVC) enable the creation of custom lending vaults which, in turn, can be used as collateral for other vaults. Earlier this year Euler also announced EulerSwap, a new DEX with a built-in AMM powered by Euler’s lending infrastructure and integrated with Uniswap v4’s hook architecture. EulerSwap integrates directly with Euler’s lending vaults, allowing assets to be used across multiple pools. This turns the lending protocol into a shared liquidity layer, improving capital efficiency across the ecosystem via swaps, lending yield or collateral for borrowing other assets.Topics covered in this episode:Michael’s backgroundThe history & vision behind EulerThe Euler hackEuler V2Euler vs. other lending protocolsDiversifying offeringsVariable vs. fixed ratesHow Pendle worksEuler’s futureRWAsPrivacy in DeFiEuler roadmapThe impact of AI in DeFiEpisode links:⁠⁠Michael Bentley on X⁠⁠Euler on X⁠⁠Sponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - ⁠gnosis.io⁠Chorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - ⁠chorus.one⁠This episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain.

Blockchains operate as a public ledger, ‘disclosing’ the entire transaction history and associated data to everyone. While verifiability and traceability are key traits, as blockchains gain global adoption, those very features hinder the process. Self custody, on-chain identities, corporate strategies, transaction history, private deals, all represent highly sensitive information that call for provable confidentiality. Fully homomorphic encryption has long been considered the ‘holy grail’ of cryptography as it enables computation to be performed on encrypted data without the need of prior decryption. This basically translates to true end-to-end encryption, both on-chain and off-chain. As cryptographic research advances, so does the scalability and applicability of FHE. As a result of more than 5 years of work, Zama has now released Zama Protocol, which enables confidential smart contracts on top of any L1 or L2 using FHE, without any additional execution burden. By encrypting all ciphertexts with the same public key, FHE ensures composability and seamless integration across different blockchains and applications, making it a true cross-chain confidentiality layer. Through parallel execution, Zama Protocol already surpasses Ethereum’s throughput, yet future roadmap includes open-source development of FPGA & ASIC in order to scale it even further, to accommodate faster, non-EVM chains.Topics covered in this episode:Zama’s progress in FHEZama's confidential blockchain ProtocolSecurity guarantees of MPC coprocessorsMaintaining a healthy operator setSlashing and governanceZama’s throughputOpen-sourcing FPGA & ASIC developmentThe Zama token & its implicationsZama’s public testnetPrivate votingZama fundingRegulationsExpanding use cases beyond blockchainsFuture goals and expectationsEpisode links:Rand Hindi on XZama on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst.

Built primarily for institutional-grade clients,  Pareto delivers customizable on-chain credit markets designed to expand DeFi liquidity and TradFi tokenization through structured yield strategies tailored to diverse risk profiles. Pareto allows its users to construct individualized credit lines in specific risk-ajusted tranches, with custom: interest rates, lockup periods, withdrawal cycles, reserve ratios, etc. In addition, Pareto’s USP is an yield-bearing synthetic stablecoin, fully backed by major stablecoins, that can be deployed into a diversified portfolio of liquid, short- and long-term credit, thus increasing capital efficiency.Topics covered in this episode:Matteo’s backgroundIdle Finance yield optimizationPivoting to ParetoInstitutional borrowers in early DeFiCompetitive advantage of ParetoOutsourcing underwritingManaging defaultsCustomized lendingKYC requirementsTimeline terms ‘marketplace’USP, Pareto’s synthetic yield-bearing dollarLegal framework & credit allocatorsUSP yield, liquidity & integrations‘Opaque’ credit vs. DeFiPareto smart contracts and redeemsSuccess in on-chain credit marketsEpisode links:Matteo Pandolfi on XParetoPareto on XIdle Finance on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst.

In an age when AI models are becoming exponentially more sophisticated and powerful, how does one ensure that proper results are being generated and that the AI model functions in desired parameters? This pressing concern of AI alignment could be solved through cryptographic verification, using zero knowledge proofs. ZKPs not only allow for verifying computation at scale, but they also confer data privacy. Lagrange’s DeepProve zkML is the fastest in existence, making it easy to prove that AI inferences are correct, scaling verifiable computation as the demand for AI grows.Topics covered in this episode:Ismael’s background and founding LagrangeAI x crypto convergenceZKML use casesAI inference verifiabilityAI safety regulationsRevenue accruing tokensPitching Lagrange to enterprise clientsAssembling a dedicated teamCryptography researchEpisode links:Ismael Hishon-Rezaizadeh on XLagrange on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture.

Inspired by Urbit’s minimal assembly language, Nockchain fuses Urbit’s vision of sovereign computing with a novel proof-of-useful-work consensus mechanism, creating a blockchain where every computation fuels progress and scaling. The crypto-economics behind Nockchain’s zkVM incentivise competition between zero knowledge provers, ultimately bootstrapping ZKPs as a new computational commodity.Topics covered in this episode:Logan’s backgroundUrbit’s valuesNock, Urbit's minimal assembly language Use cases for zk proofsNockchain’s zkVM efficiencyUseful proof-of-workLaunching NockchainFuture roadmap for NockchainBuilding apps on NockchainStore of value vs. revenue generationThe impact of quantum computingEpisode links:Logan Allen on XZorp on XNockchain on XUrbit on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain.

Universal Market Access (UMA) was founded by 2 ex Goldman Sachs traders that wanted to make global markets universally accessible through financial smart contracts that used synthetic assets on Ethereum. However, this was taking place long before the massive boom of DeFi summer of 2020. As a result, UMA shifted to building an optimistic oracle to power prediction markets as a decentralised ‘truth machine’, thus expanding oracle use cases. Through game theoretic models, UMA managed to properly incentivise its token holders to act as voters, rewarding them for good predictions & disputes, and vice versa. Later on, Hart Lambur also co-founded Across, an intent-based optimistic bridge that set out to create a seamless UX for unifying EVM chains. Through their solver network, Across managed to achieve fast (as low as 2 seconds) and cheap bridging, abstracting away crosschain complexities, without any security tradeoffs.Topics covered in this episode:Hart’s backgroundUniversal Market Access, from synthetic assets to oraclesBuilding AcrossUMA’s optimistic oracleIncentivizing voters & resolving disputesDealing with invalid outcomesOptimistic security assumptionsUMA x Across dual token interactionsAcross’ intent-based bridgePricing mechanism & solver competitionZK settlementBridging fragmentationAbstracting & unifying cross-chain bridgingBridging between rollupsUMA & Across governance systemsEpisode links:Hart Lambur on XAcross Protocol on XUMA Protocol on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst.