Conversations with the Planets

In this bonus podcast episode we share a recording of an NCGR Asteroid SIRG meeting where Dr. Katherine O'Connell talks about asteroids and dreams. It's a rich discussion with evocative stories about the power of connecting with asteroids through the dream world. We also invite podcast listeners and fellow asteroid lovers to join us for future Asteroid SIRG meetings! You can get updates about when and where we meet on our free Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/AsteroidSIRGDr. Katherine O'Connell has a background as an Astrologer (64 years), Clinical Psychologist, and an Interfaith Minister. As a Psychologist, she has authored two books on recovery and the healing process, taught internationally at Graduate Schools and Medical Schools, both Allopathic and Chinese, and served as a health care policy consultant to a U.S. President. She has an active international Astrology and Coaching Practice and can be reached at [email protected] if you catch this episode before the 2026 UAC, Dr. Katherine O'Connell will be giving a full talk about asteroids and dreams that you are invited to attend: https://uacastrology.com/schedule/WHERE TO FIND US: Katherine's Website: www.drkatherine.netKatherine's email: [email protected] SIRG Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/AsteroidSIRGConversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

Lori's been working on an asteroid encyclopedia as a resource for all you asteroid enthusiasts and it's finally on the way to being published! In this podcast episode, astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser chat about the process Lori went through to write the asteroid encyclopedia and what you can expect from the books once they've been published.

In this podcast episode, astrologers Alicia Cielle Heiser and Lori Kaufman talk about the mythology and astrology of goddesses who gave birth in exile, particularly Leto and Maia from Greek mythology. Giving birth and becoming a mother can be a difficult and transformative experience that brings up great changes and can feel quite isolating at times. Connecting with myths of women who gave birth in exile can be a nourishing balm to help new mothers and others who are undergoing great change in their lives.WHERE TO FIND US: Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

Working with hearth goddesses can be a cozy and grounding way to center your magical and astrological practice. In this Conversations with the Planets podcast episode, astrologers Alicia Cielle Heiser and Lori Kaufman talk about the mythology and astrology of the goddesses Hestia, Vesta and Brigid. We help you deepen your understanding of these ancient goddesses and learn how to interpret them in a zodiac chart.WHERE TO FIND US: Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

This episode is a special recording of an NCGR Asteroid SIRG meeting hosted by astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser. We meet on the second Tuesday of every month at 4 PM Pacific/7 PM Eastern time. If you're interested in joining us for future meetings, you can follow our free Patreon here.In this podcast episode, we talk about the mythology of Uni (#55637), the Etruscan queen of the gods and goddess of fertility, family and union. Similar to Juno and Hera, Uni is a goddess who can hold us through times of struggle and growth and helps us understand what we need out of family and community. Technically a Trans-Neptunian Object, we also discuss the difference between asteroids and TNOs and how to interpret TNOs in an astrology chart. WHERE TO FIND US: Asteroid SIRG Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/AsteroidSIRGConversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

There are so many fun little details about the discovery and naming of many different asteroids. In this episode, astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser share a bunch of fun facts about asteroids to deepen your astrological interpretations.WHERE TO FIND US: Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

There are so many fascinating and incredible ways that the astronomy of various asteroids impacts the way we can interpret these celestial bodies astrologically. In this Conversations with the Planets podcast episode, astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser talk about the astronomy of several different types of asteroids to deepen your astrological interpretations.https://www.spacereference.org/WHERE TO FIND US: Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

Two asteroids that can illuminate the monster within, Scylla and Charybdis can speak to intense, churning trauma in your birth chart. This podcast episode goes deep, and we encourage listeners to ground into their bodies and take a few deep breaths before digging in. We will be talking about sexual assault and the Epstein Files, so please choose to listen when you are in a space to receive heavier insights. We hope this episode serves as a healing resource for folks as they navigate their inner monsters and the monsters in the world around us. Asteroids 101 Podcast EpisodeWHERE TO FIND US: Travis Elliott: ⁠https://linktr.ee/travisjelliott⁠Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

With Saturn and Neptune recently entering Aries, many of us may be feeling overstimulated, excited, motivated, burnt out and overwhelmed. This episode includes quick simple practices that you can do every day to help soothe your nervous system. In this Conversations with the Planets podcast episode, Alicia Cielle Heiser and Lori Kaufman explain how you can find personalized ways to easily nourish your nervous system every day with astrology and herbalism. Saturn and Neptune are going to be in Aries for several years, so now is the time to cultivate practices to keep yourself grounded amidst all the commotion.Disclaimer: this episode is for educational purposes only and the information we share does not replace the advice of a licensed medical professional. Herbs can sometimes cause discomfort in the body and we encourage all listeners to gather appropriate information before consuming herbs to ensure safety. If you are experiencing any medical issues, we encourage you to consult an appropriate professional to help cultivate healing and wellness in your life.ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:Tending to Your Nervous System with Astrology and HerbalismSelf Care and AstrologyWHERE TO FIND US: Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com

A profound mythic healer, the asteroid Asclepius can illuminate fascinating components of one's healing journey. In this Conversations with the Planets podcast episode, we have Dr. Travis Elliott join us to talk about deep lunar feminine practices that incorporate dreaming and stillness to encourage healing. We talk about the impact that the asteroids Asclepius and his daughters, including Hygiea, Panacea and Aegle can have in a birth chart and by transit.Asteroids to look up in your birth chart: 1813,10,158,4581,1027,2878,96,12152,4086Travis Elliott is a naturopathic physician whose sole focus is to help his clients work with their symptoms as agents of transformation, rather than pushing against them. After growing frustrated with conventional approaches to health, he’s created a structure of intuitive healing that works deeply with emotions, alchemical plant medicine, and astrology.WHERE TO FIND US: Travis Elliott: https://linktr.ee/travisjelliottConversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please make sure to subscribe to our channel and like this video!Music: Forest Lullaby by music_for_video on pixabay.com