65: Embracing the Chaos being Toxic and Positive

It’s the last episode of the year (and the first of 2026), and Jay and Kathy are wrapping up 2025 with their annual Systems Check. The hosts review a year defined by "Environmental Hacking", looking back at how their tools and habits evolved.

Kathy and Jay discuss end-of-year planning. Kathy's 2026 theme: "The Year to Be Selfish." Jay commits to boundaries and self-preservation. They cover nonprofit transitions and preparing for the annual systems check.

Jay and Kathy discuss their end-of-year plans as things slow down for the holidays. They talk about decluttering spaces, being kinder to themselves, preparing for next year's challenges, and the importance of celebrating wins throughout the year.

Kathy is joined by the Nameless of the Show, Nameless, to talk about how to be productive when the system is one you don't control.

Productivity comes in many forms. Sometimes you have a lot to do in a little time.Our hosts tackle the challenges that come with Fast and Slow times in productivity.

Jay is off galavanting so Kathy is joined by Tiff Arment, to talk about losing creativity for a very good reason - stepping into the role of a restaurant owner. Also, a lot of Napkin Talk™️.

Jay and Kathy talk about some of the skills that others had that they wish they could possess.

Our hosts do a check in with each other in the midst of the busyness that is our summer/fall schedules. There is also a call for your messages! Send us the skills you work on and skills that other people are great at you wish you could have.

We interviewed the the maker of one of Conduits favorite apps, P.

Jay and Kathy took the bonus Conduit Episode to think about how things have changed for them and how they are thinking about it.