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"We go to bed too late, we wake up too early, we don’t eat enough, and we have an awesome time." It was a New York City Marathon to remember. It was one of the best weekends of my life, and certainly the greatest weekend of my career. I hosted two live shows (one with Gabby Thomas and New Balance at Carnegie Hall, and one at Volvo Studio Manhattan with Keira D'Amato), I was on the ESPN and ABC broadcasts on race day, and I was on top of the world the entire time. This is my exhaustive recap of every step. SPONSORS:  Vuori: Click here for 20% off your first Vuori purchase. The Eugene Marathon: Register for the Eugene Marathon (April 27, 2025) and save $10 with code ONTHERUN. UCAN: Click here to get a FREE UCAN Edge sample pack (you’ll just pay the cost of shipping), and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. In this episode: Friday: the Carnegie Hall live show with Gabby Thomas, a delicious dinner at Nobu, and a sleepover with Keira D’Amato (3:40) Saturday: a morning run in Central Park, a Volvo live show with Keira, an afternoon of broadcast rehearsals — sort of — and an evening of arm wrestling with friends (36:00) Sunday: the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon, and a fun night out (1:00:00) Monday: time to go home (1:34:00) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"This is where the magic happens." It's an Ali and Keira live show! (The fourth Ali and Keira D'Amato live show, if you're keeping track!) Thank you so much to Volvo Cars USA for hosting us in their gorgeous Manhattan studio space for some fun, some silliness, some singing, and some sandwiches, and thank you to everyone who joined us for a fun morning the day before the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon.  SPONSOR: VOLVO CARS: New sponsor alert! Click here to get an exclusive offer on a Volvo purchase or lease. (I'm completely obsessed with the XC90!) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I had to trick myself into believing that I could win a gold medal." Career highlight. Life highlight. Welcome to Ali on the Run Show LIVE with Gabby Thomas, presented by New Balance, held at Zankel Hall at Carnegie Hall in New York City, two days before the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon. (What a big sentence!)  Gabby Thomas is a three-time Olympic gold medalist, and an Olympic silver and bronze medalist. She's a 200m specialist with a Harvard University degree in Neurobiology and a Masters in Public Health from the University of Texas. She is one of the starts of the Netflix documentary Sprint, and Sprint Season 2, out next week. Gabby was the grand marshal at this year's New York City Marathon, and, allegedly, she makes a great salad. Biggest THANK YOU to the New Balance team (Kristen, James, Sean, Summer, and so many more), the Mirror team, and the team at Carnegie Hall. This live podcast audio was recorded by Noriko Okabe. The pre-show musicians (enjoy the opening rendition of "Shake It Off!") were Mikhail Romanov and Galina Romanova. FOLLOW GABBY @gabbythomas SPONSOR: New Balance. Click here to shop New Balance’s latest releases for the season. (The SuperComp Trainer is my favorite daily shoe, and I race in the SC Elite v4!) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I do everything that I do as if I literally, truly love it." Rad Lopez grew up in the Bronx. He was raised by a single mom who "didn't have much," but who made magic happen for her children every day. Rad used to work at a gym in the Bronx — cleaning toilets, towels, and locker rooms, not coaching or training — and would look out at the runners on New York City Marathon day. He said one day, that would be him. Spoiler: check! Today, Rad Lopez is a Peloton instructor and Nike-sponsored athlete who made his 26.2-mile debut last year at the Chicago Marathon. He was intrigued enough that he ran his second marathon, the New York City Marathon, one month later. This weekend, Rad will run the TCS New York City Marathon for the second time. In this episode, he talks about how training has gone, about his "victim vs. underdog" mentality, and about why you should do things scared. FOLLOW RAD @radichell SPONSORS: VOLVO CARS: New sponsor alert! Click here to get an exclusive offer on a Volvo purchase or lease. (I'm completely obsessed with the XC90!) Sidekick: Click here to get 15% off any recovery tool. In this episode: “How did today’s run go, Rad?” (2:25) Rad recaps his day at the Bronx 10 Mile (3:50) Rad’s take on the running community (6:25) Why Rad wanted to run this year’s TCS New York City Marathon (8:35) What Rad’s marathon training has been like (11:00) Rad’s history with the NYC Marathon (13:30) How Rad became a runner (19:00) Why Rad wanted to run his first marathon (21:45) Rad remembers his first marathon finish line (32:00) Rad’s goals for this year’s NYC Marathon (35:10) What Rad’s childhood was like (42:45) Where Young Rad found inspiration, and the difference between a victim mentality and an underdog mentality (50:00) How Rad got the Peloton job (55:45) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"At a marathon finish line — especially this marathon finish line — you see the best of humanity." Every year on the first Sunday of November, more than 50,000 runners, 10,000 volunteers, and two million spectators will descend on the five boroughs for one reason: the TCS New York City Marathon. This episode is your unofficial guide to the iconic 26.2-mile race. Two and a half jam-packed hours of New York City Marathon-related information. And this episode isn’t just for the marathoners: We have tips for spectators, a breakdown of how to get into the race in the future, and general advice for marathon-day fueling and hydrating. As for my New York City Marathon love affair: This race is my Super Bowl, my Christmas, my birthday, Valentine’s Day, my favorite day of the year. It was the first marathon I ever watched, back in 2008, when I went out to cheer for a coworker who was running the race. (Thanks for the inspiration, Therese!) I’ve run it three times — in 2013, 2014, and 2016 — and volunteered once, in 2015, at a fluid station in Brooklyn. In 2017, I cheered on “First and Fifth,” and in 2018, at three weeks postpartum, going to the New York City Marathon was my first outing since having a baby. I sat in the grandstands as Shalane Flanagan finished third, and pumped in a “fancy” (you know, the nice kind!) finish line porta potty. Then, in 2019, I got the best seat in the house for the first time: New York City Marathon finish line announcer. After announcing at the finish and at the Finish Line After Dark in 2019, 2021, and 2022, last year I made my NYC TV debut. I joined the broadcast talent team as a reporter on the international feed, and was featured on the WABC7 local broadcast. This year: They're putting me on TV again! In addition to hosting two live shows during New York City Marathon weekend, on race day I'll be part of the ESPN2 and WABC7 broadcasts as a finish line reporter, and I'll return to the finish line for the 3–5 PM broadcast on ABC. Let’s have some fun! SPONSORS:  goodr: Click here and use code ALI for $5 off your next order. UCAN: Click here to get a FREE UCAN Edge sample pack (you’ll just pay the cost of shipping), including the new Mocha + Caffeine gel and the Chocolate gel. (My dream!) Then, use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. In this episode: TCS New York City Marathon race director Ted Metellus talks about why he’s excited for this year’s TCS New York City Marathon (5:15) Pre-race questions: how to get in, how to handle feeling overwhelmed by logistics, and how to watch this year’s race (28:30) What you need to know about getting to the start line in Staten Island, and what to do once you’re there (36:30) What to know about the New York City Marathon course (59:20) New York City Marathon course strategy (and a pep talk!) with Peloton instructor and 2:32 marathoner Becs Gentry (1:12:40) Welcome to the New York City Marathon finish line — and what happens once you cross it (1:54:00) What to know about spectating at the New York City Marathon (1:59:00) You did it! Now what? (2:05:00) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I just kept picturing kindness and all these people that I knew would show up for me, and I wanted to show up for them. And for you. And for myself, frankly." I returned to Chicago for the second time, and it was awesome. In this episode, I'm recapping all of the action from Chicago Marathon weekend, including the Abbott Chicago 5K, the New Balance live show, and, of course, race day. Plus, all the social stuff, an architecture tour, and a meaningful moment on the lakefront. SPONSOR: New Balance. Click here to shop New Balance’s latest releases for the season. (The SuperComp Trainer is my favorite daily shoe, and I ran the Abbott Chicago 5K in the SC Elite v4!) In this episode: All about my role at this year’s Chicago Marathon (1:30) Thursday: travel day! (8:50) Friday: a morning walk and run, a meaningful lakefront encounter, a press conference, an architecture tour, and a girls night (14:00) Saturday: the Abbott Chicago 5K and a live show with Emily Birthday Girl Sisson, Emma Coburn, and Joe Bosshard (36:50) Sunday: Chicago Marathon day! (57:30) Monday: homeward bound (1:19:15) Listener Q&A (1:21:45) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"I hate to admit it, but I’m already kinda looking forward to the next one." Matthew Centrowitz is best known as the 2016 Olympic gold medalist in the men's 1500m. But that's not what we're talking about today! Today, Matt makes his Ali on the Run Show debut in the wake of making his marathon debut! Matt ran the Chicago Marathon as an official pacer, and this is his official race recap. Matt paced a group of American women including Keira D'Amato, Betsy Saina, and Emma Bates, ultimately finishing in 2:24:36. In this episode, Matt shares all, from the pre-race meetings and logistical learnings to what exactly happened at 37K. (Up next for Matt: Dad Mode! His wife is pregnant and they are expecting their first child next month.) FOLLOW MATT @mgcentro SPONSORS: VOLVO CARS: New sponsor alert! Click here to get an exclusive offer on a Volvo purchase or lease. (I'm completely obsessed with the XC90!) UCAN: Click here to get a FREE UCAN training essentials pack (you’ll just pay the cost of shipping), and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. In this episode: How Matt is feeling post-marathon (2:30) How Matt celebrated his 35th birthday (4:00) In summary: How was Matt’s first marathon? (6:35) Matt talks about all the pre-race logistics (11:25) How Matt ended up training for — and running — a marathon (28:00) How Matt got the job of Chicago Marathon Pacer (41:45) What the start line was like (48:00) The pressure of pacing (53:15) How Matt’s race played out (56:20) On the camaraderie of American women distance runners (1:03:30) How Matt felt after the race (1:18:10) What’s next for Matt (1:23:35) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Both of us had that on our mind in the last lap of the Olympic 1500 Final: 'We’re not going to be going home empty handed today.'" Jessica Hull has had a heck of a year. The Australian middle-distance runner ran a massive personal best in the 1500 meters (3:50.83), won Silver at the Olympics in the 1500, broke the World Record in the 2000m, and, in total, earned 15 podium finishes during her racing season. In this conversation, Jess shares her highs and lows from the year, and talks about what it's like being part of the women's 1500m community right now. She talks about The Faith Effect, and about why lining up next to Faith Kipyegon is the best thing for the sport. Plus, what's coming up for Jess, and why she decided to sign with Grand Slam Track. FOLLOW JESS @jessicaahull SPONSOR: UCAN: Click here to get a FREE UCAN training essentials pack (you’ll just pay the cost of shipping), and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order. In this episode: How Jess is spending her off-season (2:30) How Jess was feeling at the end of her season (5:10) Jess talks about her preferred style of racing (8:30) Jess reflects on 2024 (12:00) Whether Jess feels pressure heading into 2025, and the advice she got from Ashton Eaton about how to handle pressure (14:00) What led to Jess’s breakout year (20:05) On being the first Australian woman to medal in the 1500m (24:40) What Jess’s homecoming was like after winning silver (29:35) On the wholesomeness of the women’s 1500m (31:45) What it’s like racing Faith Kipyegon (37:55) How Jess deals with pre-race nerves (45:50) Olympic rings tattoo talk (49:55) What’s next? (52:20) Why Jess signed with Grand Slam Track (54:00) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

You never quite know what might happen at a live event, and this one took all kinds of twists and turns. From a snake-sitting story to a mid-show birthday cupcake singalong to two very special surprise guests, Ali on the Run Show LIVE in Chicago with Emily Sisson was one to remember. (Listen to our last live show here.) Biggest thanks to New Balance and Fleet Feet Chicago for making it all happen. FOLLOW EMILY @em_sisson_ SPONSOR: New Balance. Click here to shop New Balance’s latest releases for the season. (The SuperComp Trainer is my favorite daily shoe, and I ran the Abbott Chicago 5K in the SC Elite v4!) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

"Now that I’m free of that relationship, who am I now? I needed to know this new version of myself. So I started doing things I’ve always been like, 'Huh, maybe I want to try this, maybe I want to do that.' I was like, 'Why don’t I just give running a go?' I'd always see people in Prospect Park doing the loop, and I was always like, 'I want to be one of those people who’s doing that!'" Phoebe Robinson knows fun. She's a stand-up comedian, writer, producer, actress, and host and star of Two Dope Queens (the podcast and the show). She's the author of the best-selling You Can't Touch My Hair and Everything's Trash. And she moderated Michelle Obama's Becoming book tour in five different cities. So what's fun for Phoebe right now? Running, of course! In this episode, Phoebe talks about how and why she became a runner just one year ago. Phoebe ran her first marathon, the Boston Marathon, earlier this year, and is currently training for the New York City Marathon. Plus: Phoebe's takes on turning 40, her friendship with Bono, and Sex and the City.  FOLLOW PHOEBE @dopequeenpheebs SPONSORS: The Eugene Marathon: Register for the Eugene Marathon (April 27, 2025) and save $10 with code ONTHERUN. Lagoon: Click here to take Lagoon’s 2-minute sleep quiz to see which pillow is right for you. (Emma Bates and I are both Otters!) Use code ALI at checkout for 15% off your order. In this episode: How it feels to be a marathoner (2:30) How it feels to have just turned 40 (4:00) What Phoebe is watching right now (16:00) What Phoebe used to want to be when she grew up (19:55) What hasn’t Phoebe done? (23:45) What it was like moderating Michelle Obama’s Becoming book tour (28:15) Phoebe talks running! (32:55) Phoebe looks back on her first half marathon (45:45) How becoming a marathoner has changed Phoebe’s life (51:05)] How running has worked its way into Phoebe’s work (57:15) Phoebe’s goals for the 2024 New York City Marathon (59:30) Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Subscribe to the newsletter SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!