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This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Oak and Eden Bourbon with Amburana Spiral and dive into building software that actually works, AI code reviews that roast your PRs, and whether engineering is dead or just hiding behind a gauntlet loop. They dig into Doorway, the ADHD task helper app that stops you from forgetting why you walked into a room, dark factory workflows where agents grind while you watch, iterative AI loops that beat the slop out of your code until it's good, Creator Micro unboxing and personal software revolution, Muse Glimmer as the jealous local model that disses Claude, and why coding dopamine is gone but engineering still matters. Along the way, they debate whether taste still matters when everyone has the same LLMs, speech to text versus typing, robotic lawnmowers named Jeff that can't find the street, CSS signals and scroll axis liberation, Oak and Eden custom whiskey builder as the first MCP enabled agentic experience, Big Red cinnamon bear claws with coconut sprinkles, mulled cider vibes and Christmas in a glass, gauntlet loops versus slip and slides, adversarial reviews that always find something, punk ass versus Glimmer in a jealous AI showdown, watermarks on AI images getting stripped the same day, free tokens at cafes instead of free Wi-Fi, personal private software living on your home network, discovering your 3D printer's API and making a dashboard in five minutes, design patterns versus laying bricks, and why the gang of four matters more than ever. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:01:05 Tasting: Oak and Eden Bourbon with Amburana Spiral 00:07:03 Building Doorway: The ADHD Task Helper App 00:09:53 Dark Factory Life: AI Code Reviews & The Speed Trap 00:12:41 The Gauntlet Loop: Building Better with Iterative AI 00:27:31 Creator Micro Unboxing & Personal Software Revolution 00:33:45 Muse Glimmer & The Jealous AI Problem 00:48:11 Engineering vs Coding: The Dopamine Drought 00:54:07 CSS Signals & Scroll Axis Liberation 01:02:51 Jeff the Mower's Street Adventures & Wrap Up Links Oak and Eden Bourbon: https://oakandeden.com/ Doorway App: https://doorway.help/ Doorway: https://whydidiwalkinhere.com Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Impeccable: https://impeccable.ai/ Muse Glimmer: https://ai.meta.com/ CloudKit: https://developer.apple.com/icloud/cloudkit/ Swift: https://swift.org/ Astro: https://astro.build/ GSAP: https://greensock.com/gsap/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/ Codex Micro: https://worklouder.cc/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ CSS Scroll Axis: https://nerdy.dev/scroll-axis CSS Signals: https://nerdy.dev/css-signals AMP Fitness: https://amp.ai/ Tonal: https://www.tonal.com/ Elegoo 3D Printer: https://www.elegoo.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Chicken Cock Small Batch Kentucky Bourbon and dive into building mobile apps with Claude, CSS infinity, MySpace's comeback, and whether 2026 is just 2006 but way more expensive. They dig into the Doorway app for ADHD task tracking, voice dictation workflows, AI keyboards, Steve Yegge's hot takes on CICD and code review, mental health in the age of agents, design system chaos, LLM failures, why Opus 5 still wins, and skull.style as the future of passive income. Along the way, they debate MySpace's return and nostalgia culture, retro gaming and digital ownership, CSS layers and Tailwind quirks, prop for that and responsive border radiuses, infinity pixels breaking browsers, treating agents nice versus yelling at them, caveman prompting versus verbose explanations, dark factories and internal bleeding, human code review being dead, agent overload and mental health decline, whiskey build times as a metaphor for patience, and why five year feedback loops sound like torture. Try Mailtrap for free: https://l.rw.rw/whiskey_web_and_whatnot_4 In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:15 Tasting: Chicken Cock Small Batch Kentucky Bourbon 00:13:31 Building a Mobile App with Claude: The Doorway App 00:19:46 MySpace Is Coming Back & 2026 Is Just 2006 But More Expensive 00:26:59 CSS Infinity, Layers & Prop For That 00:46:53 Voice Dictation, AI Keyboards & The Future of Coding 00:49:14 Steve Yegge's Take: Are Code Review & CI/CD Doomed? 00:50:44 Mental Health, Dark Factories & The Agent Overload Problem 00:54:50 Design Systems, LLM Failures & Why Opus 5 Still Wins 01:01:22 Whiskey Build Times & Skull.Style: The Clothing Brand Journey Links Chicken Cock Bourbon: https://chickencockwhiskey.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Claude Desktop: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/desktop Xcode: https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ Impeccable: https://impeccable.style/ MySpace: https://myspace.com/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Prop For That: https://github.com/argyleink/prop-for-that CSS Infinity Article: https://nerdy.dev/css-infinity Herder: https://herdr.dev Warp: https://warp.dev Buzz: https://github.com/block/buzz Slack: https://slack.com Work Louder OpenAI Keyboard: https://worklouder.cc/ Opus 5: https://www.anthropic.com/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Playwright: https://playwright.dev/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Skull.Style: https://skull.style/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam catch up over Redemption Rye to talk token budgets, worktrees, and whether the harness era is already over. They dig into the abrupt shutdown of GitHub Copilot at work, Bob as the internal AI replacement, branch protection rules that block releases, spec driven development with self documenting agents, and why giving models less context actually produces better results. Along the way, they debate whether frameworks still matter when LLMs write the code, server side renaissance versus thick client ceremony, slop as a choice versus slop as history, the meta harness layer that routes to other harnesses, Jeff the lawnmower that yeets itself off cliffs, Roombas that eat socks and bonk into walls, amp.ai as the smart Bowflex you mount on studs, HSA funded home gyms, and why Redemption Rye tastes like maple and black pepper until it doesn't. Try Mailtrap for free: https://l.rw.rw/whiskey_web_and_whatnot_3 In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:06:56 Copilot Crisis: When AI Gets Yanked Mid-Workflow 00:11:52 Context Overload: Why Less Prompt Is More 00:15:31 Spec-Driven Development & Worktree Workflows 00:18:50 Token Limits & The End of the Subsidized AI Era 00:24:55 Fable AI Returns: Overhyped or Underdelivered? 00:26:55 Slop vs Spaghetti: Code Quality Was Always Questionable 00:34:52 The Framework Debate: Are We Over-Engineering Everything? 00:41:57 Meta-Harnesses & The One Tool to Rule Them All 00:45:38 Conjure: Building Apps from Service Design & User Flows 00:48:59 Jeff the Lawnmower: When Robots Fail Spectacularly 00:54:52 Smart Fitness & The AMP Workout Machine 01:00:17 Wrap Up & Final Thoughts Links Redemption Rye: https://redemptionwhiskey.com/ Sagamore Rye: https://sagamorespirit.com/ GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Impeccable: https://impeccable.ai/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ React: https://react.dev/ React Native: https://reactnative.dev/ Vite: https://vitejs.dev/ Prop For That: https://github.com/argyleink/prop-for-that Conjure: https://conjure.dev/ Roomba: https://www.irobot.com/ Amp.ai: https://amp.ai/ Tonal: https://www.tonal.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Denver Cramer—industrial designer, entrepreneur, photographer, distiller, and creator of the globally recognized Denver and Lylee glassware brand—to talk whiskey glasses, design philosophy, and whether AI will replace the next generation's jobs. They dig into Starward single malt finished in Lagavulin cask, Melbourne's Four Seasons climate, red wine barrel aging, the grassiness fading into sweetness, Pappy versus Weller 12, blind taste testing Flamin' Hot Cheetos, and why Octomore 8.3 is the ultimate peat monster. Along the way, they debate designing glasses for corn versus barley based spirits, the bourbon glass chode, smelling at the top versus the bottom of the glass, the turbine wine glass that Ryan Reynolds loved, eight years of R&D, passion projects versus commercial products, raising kids in the world before and after AI, teaching them to code with retro video games, making YouTube videos with Legos, screens as tools not babysitters, playing instruments versus making instruments, luthiers versus engineers, planting 400 Pinot Noir vines to learn winemaking, trumpet and piano and guitar, and why the banjo is part drum part guitar part lead singer. Try Mailtrap for free: https://l.rw.rw/whiskey_web_and_whatnot_2 In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:04:00 Tasting Starward x Lagavulin: Red Wine Meets Peat 00:12:38 Ultimate Whiskey Drams & Desert Island Albums 00:28:30 The Science & Soul of Glass Design 00:40:50 From Christmas Present to Global Brand 00:43:00 AI, Kids & The Future of Work 00:57:40 Passion Projects vs Capitalism: Building with Soul 01:07:09 Music, Instruments & The Luthier Mindset 01:13:15 Banjo Performance & Wrap Up Links Starward Whisky: https://starward.com.au/ Lagavulin: https://www.malts.com/en-us/brands/lagavulin/ Denver and Liely Glassware: https://denverandliely.com/ Octomore: https://www.bruichladdich.com/ Pappy Van Winkle: https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/ Weller: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html Scarabus: https://www.scarabus.com/ Compass Box: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/ Sagamore Rye: https://sagamorespirit.com/ Canon Whiskey Bar: https://www.cannonwhiskeybar.com/ Deltron 3030: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deltron_3030 Jimmy Eat World Bleed American: https://www.jimmyeatworld.com/ Bruce Springsteen: https://brucespringsteen.net/ Gospel Rye: https://gospelwhiskey.com/ Wild Turkey 101: https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/ Glendronach: https://www.glendronachdistillery.com/ Dalwhinnie: https://www.malts.com/en-us/brands/dalwhinnie/ Intel Pantec Lake: https://www.intel.com/ C.W. Stoneking: https://www.cwstoneking.com/ Mayday Parade: https://maydayparade.com/ Connect with Denver Website: https://denverandliely.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/denverandliely/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam are back together to catch up on life, AI workflows, and whether agents can actually fix themselves when they break. They dig into barrel bourbon batch 38, token limits at work versus unlimited at Shopify, open code burning through budgets, work trees for parallel agent tasks, Claude's quiet hours spam, and why fable was secretly just a better harness. Along the way, they debate impeccable's art direction grilling you like Matt Pocock, StarPod video integration, mid journey medical imaging as the future of wellness, TSA bag scanners that should be fully AI by now, CodeRabbit versus Copilot for PR reviews, self healing loops that never actually heal, robot lawnmowers named Jeff that can't find their chargers, smoked cocktails in bongs at Cannon, and why the meta harness layer is probably going to die soon. Try Mailtrap for free: https://l.rw.rw/whiskey_web_and_whatnot_1 In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:06:32 Token Limits & The Subsidized AI Era Ends 00:13:18 Fable AI: The Great 8-Hour Experiment 00:20:20 Work Trees, Code Reviews & Vibe Checking PRs 00:24:34 Impeccable Design System & The Art of AI Prompting 00:32:01 Tinder for Algos: Automated Design Workflows 00:37:14 The Harness Wars: Skills, Memory & Tribal Knowledge 00:44:22 Meta-Harnesses, Flu, Eve & The Specialist Problem 00:48:05 OpenClaw Nightmares & Self-Healing Systems 00:58:01 Midjourney Medical, Jeff the Lawnmower & Wrap Up Links Barrel Bourbon Batch 38: https://barrelbourbonbrand.com/ Compass Box Crimson Cask: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/ Octomor: https://www.bruichladdich.com/ Pappy Van Winkle: https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/ Cannon Whiskey Bar: https://www.cannonwhiskeybar.com/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Impeccable: https://impeccable.ai/ StarPod: https://starpod.app/ Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/ CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/ GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Flu: https://flu.ai/ Eve: https://eve.dev/ OmniAgent: https://omniagent.ai/ Polygraph: https://polygraph.ai/ Railway: https://railway.app/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Vite: https://vitejs.dev/ Playwright: https://playwright.dev/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ MailTrap: https://mailtrap.io/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Brad Frost—creator of Atomic Design, design system architect, front of the front end developer, bass player, Dragon Ball Z fan site pioneer, and maker of weird and wonderful internet things—to talk grief, AI, and finding your line through an uncontrollable landscape. They dig into processing the stages of acceptance around AI, music toys like the Orchid synth, the hard road through mastery, fruit booters versus Tony Hawk, snowboarding as a metaphor for navigating chaos, and why domain expertise is now more valuable than ever. Along the way, they debate the loss of joy versus bigger horizons, purple outlines and the limits of design systems, experience and time as the things that actually matter, human networks and zombie malls, signal over noise and the quest for less, caveman prompting and Daft Punk lyrics, repetition and depth and the power of simple words, green M&Ms and Van Halen's quality test, local LLMs and hallucinations and the sigil test, audio powered visualizations and design tokens, MIDI controllers and breaking cognitive barriers, organizational culture and the AI injection, tech stack being irrelevant now, what do we actually do and the Bob's question, designers needing to solve problems not push pixels, and the AI and Design Systems course. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:41 Music Toys & The Orchid Synth 00:07:28 The Journey Through Mastery & Hard Things 00:08:16 Fruit Booters, Rollerblading & Tony Hawk 00:10:41 Grief, AI & The Stages of Acceptance 00:16:13 Finding Your Line: Snowboarding as Metaphor 00:23:21 Domain Expertise Is Now Invaluable 00:25:19 The Loss of Joy vs Bigger Horizons 00:26:33 Purple Outlines & The Limits of Design Systems 00:28:11 Experience, Time & What Actually Matters 00:35:35 Human Networks & Zombie Malls 00:38:29 Signal Over Noise & The Quest for Less 00:40:51 Caveman Prompting & Daft Punk Lyrics 00:42:52 Repetition, Depth & The Power of Simple Words 00:57:29 Green M&Ms & Van Halen's Quality Test 00:58:29 Local LLMs, Hallucinations & The Sigil Test 01:01:26 Audio-Powered Visualizations & Design Tokens 01:06:37 MIDI Controllers & Breaking Cognitive Barriers 01:08:48 Organizational Culture & The AI Injection 01:09:53 Tech Stack Is Irrelevant Now 01:11:55 What Do We Actually Do? The Bob's Question 01:14:47 Designers Need to Solve Problems, Not Push Pixels 01:17:05 AI & Design Systems Course 01:20:37 Wrap Up & Final Thoughts Links Orchid Synth: https://telepathicinstruments.com/products/orchid-orc-1 Atomic Design: https://atomicdesign.bradfrost.com/ Tony Hawk Pro Skater: https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/ The Music Lesson by Victor Wooten: https://www.victorwooten.com/ Acceptance and Commitment Therapy: https://contextualscience.org/act Daft Punk: https://www.daftpunk.com/ Chemical Brothers: https://www.chemicalbrothers.com/ Suno: https://suno.ai/ Waking Life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waking_Life Van Halen Green M&Ms: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/ Kandinsky: https://www.wassilykandinsky.net/ Sumi-e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ink_wash_painting MIDI: https://www.midi.org/ Figma: https://www.figma.com/ Don't Make Me Think: https://sensible.com/dont-make-me-think/ AI and Design Systems Course: https://aianddesign.systems/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ React: https://react.dev/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Office Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space Connect with Brad Website: https://bradfrost.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/brad_frost Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie welcomes back Chuck Carpenter for a nostalgic reunion over Jim Beam White Label Bourbon to catch up on life, AI workflows, and whether agents can replace human reviewers. They dig into Chuck's move to Italy, the bureaucratic nightmare of European residency, AI as tech leads, CodeRabbit versus GPT debates, SOC 2 compliance workarounds, and why GitHub bots might be the key to unlocking dark factory workflows. Along the way, they debate whether taste still matters when everyone has access to the same LLMs, speech to text versus typing, robotic lawnmowers, thermomix recipes generated by Claude, the death of Fable, local compute versus cloud dependency, deleting LinkedIn as a life goal, and why Jim Beam White Label tastes like college regret mixed with Kool Aid. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:43 College Nostalgia & Bourbon Tasting Notes 00:14:35 AI Workflows: From Code Reviews to GitHub Bots 00:21:04 The Death of SaaS: Building Your Own Tools 00:23:17 Fable AI Shutdown & The State of Anthropic 00:31:50 Life in Italy: Bureaucracy, Wine & Cultural Differences 00:35:34 Speech-to-Text Coding & The Future of Development 00:50:07 Local Compute vs Cloud Models: The Coming Rug Pull 00:54:05 Gaming, Watching & The LinkedIn Dream 00:56:05 Wrap Up & Final Thoughts Links Jim Beam White Label Bourbon: https://www.jimbeam.com/ Knob Creek: https://www.knobcreek.com/ Bookers: https://www.bookersbourbon.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Thermomix: https://www.thermomix.com/ Lymow Robotic Mower: https://www.lymow.com/ Yarbo: https://yarbo.com/ Handy Speech to Text: https://handyapp.ai/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Proxmox: https://www.proxmox.com/ Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/ DeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/ Beelink: https://www.bee-link.com/ TrueNAS: https://www.truenas.com/ Amazon Luna: https://www.amazon.com/luna Metroid: https://metroid.nintendo.com/ Cyberpunk 2077: https://www.cyberpunk.net/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Connect with Chuck Website: https://chuckcarpenter.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Compass Box Crimson Cask and dive into the wild world of AI infrastructure chaos, factory engineering, and why yelling at your computer might actually be the most productive workflow. They dig into the death of OpenClaw after a catastrophic tokenization failure, the rise of sparse attention with SubQ, NPM worms targeting TanStack, Mythos cracking Apple's M5 memory integrity for $35K in tokens, and why Ghostty is leaving GitHub after 18 years. Along the way, they debate building playgrounds versus digging holes, trampolines without nets as peak 90s parenting, factory engineering versus single prompt life, skull.style as the future of passive income, caveman versus JSON for LLM efficiency, clipping as a new parasitic job category, and whether GitHub's three nines uptime is actually just a built in excuse to touch grass. Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:06:12 Trampoline Safety & Parenting Philosophy 00:14:08 Hawaii Whiskey Adventures & The Tourist Problem 00:21:55 OpenClaw Is Dead: The Great Bot Breakdown 00:25:57 ClaudeClaw Factories & The Art Director Life 00:39:34 Loop Engineering & Factory Concepts for AI Workflows 00:47:47 NPM Worms, TanStack Pwned & The RMRF Kill Switch 00:50:03 Mythos Cracks Apple's M5 Security for 35K in Tokens 00:53:35 Gastown's Secret Self-Improvement & Elon vs OpenAI 00:58:32 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & Ghosty's Exodus 01:06:55 SubQ: Sparse Attention & Caveman Mode Built In 01:11:10 Clipping Culture & The Volume Game Links Compass Box Crimson Cask: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ ClaudeClaw: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/ TanStack: https://tanstack.com/ SubQ: https://subq.ai/ Mythos: https://mythosai.com/ Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Gastown: https://gastown.dev/ Nano Banana: https://nanobanana.ai/ Skull Style: https://skull.style/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Railway: https://railway.app/ Bun: https://bun.sh/ Discord: https://discord.com/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Peer.co: https://peer.co/ Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/ Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/ Hi Rye Whiskey: https://hirye.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream and dive deep into their entrepreneurial origin stories, from childhood hustles to band life to building apps for dead platforms. They dig into selling guppies as a fish pimp, child modeling for Nintendo ads, third grade pepto menthol schemes, breeding birds that pecked themselves, mowing lawns fast, and why nipple piercings are a bad investment. Along the way, they debate pop punk band names like Superband, recording with Fruity Loops, screamo versus emo trajectories, Under Oath versus Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, fight dancing versus moshing, ticket scams at Graystone Tavern, horror game mechanics in Outlast and Dead Space, proximity chat hacks in Phasmophobia and Peak, why RV There Yet is too hard, selling Die Ants Die on the BlackBerry Playbook, device walls for IE5 through IE8, and whether scotch aged in bourbon casks is secretly amaretto. Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:05:30 Early Entrepreneurial Adventures: Fish Pimping & Child Modeling 00:14:48 Hot Topic Tripp Pants & The Band Years Begin 00:19:24 Pop Punk Covers, Recording Studios & The MySpace Era 00:28:49 From Metal to Hip Hop: Musical Evolution & Nerdcore 00:32:57 Video Game Nostalgia: From Zelda to Dead Space 00:39:37 Survival Horror Deep Dive: Outlast, Dead Space & Phasmophobia 00:50:02 Peak, RV There Yet & The Difficulty Problem 00:53:41 Mobile Dev Nightmares: BlackBerry Playbook & Die Ants Die 00:57:29 Browser Wars & Device Testing Hell 01:04:19 Whiskey Review: Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream Links Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream: https://www.glenmorangie.com/ Maylene and the Sons of Disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maylene_and_the_Sons_of_Disaster Under Oath: https://underoath777.com/ Dashboard Confessional: https://www.dashboardconfessional.com/ John Mayer: https://www.johnmayer.com/ Me First and the Gimme Gimmes: https://www.gimmemusic.com/ MF Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_Doom Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/ Sage Francis: https://www.sagefrancis.net/ Atmosphere: https://atmosphere.com/ Del the Funky Homosapien: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_the_Funky_Homosapien Fruity Loops: https://www.image-line.com/ Analog Pocket: https://www.analogue.co/pocket Slay the Spire: https://www.megacrit.com/ Zelda Ocarina of Time: https://www.zelda.com/ Metroid: https://metroid.nintendo.com/ Resident Evil: https://www.residentevil.com/ Bioshock: https://bioshockgame.com/ Fable: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fable Outlast: https://redbarrelsgames.com/games/outlast/ Dead Space: https://www.ea.com/games/dead-space Phasmophobia: https://kineticgames.co.uk/ Peak: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643520/Peak/ RV There Yet: https://rvthereyet.com/ BlackBerry Playbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_PlayBook Palm Pre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre Adobe PhoneGap: https://phonegap.com/ Califia Farms: https://www.califiafarms.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam are live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with Christina Martinez, DevEx engineer at Resend, former gym owner, and creator of the viral Gen Z slang Babel plugin. They dig into whether React is a framework, React Server Components, hooks versus signals, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, semicolons, TypeScript noise, and why C Sharp felt like too much ceremony. Along the way, they debate OpenClaw bots with personalities, gardening tips from AI assistants, personifying Telegram bots named Woz, touching hotel plants without permission, spider wort propagation etiquette, second brains in Obsidian, agent to agent email negotiations powered by Resend, why Claude eats context like candy, tabs on top versus the left, Google search versus LLMs, and whether AI will take out designers or developers first. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:01:38 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates 00:02:32 Hooks, HTML & The Programming Language Debate 00:04:10 Tailwind, Git Workflows & Semicolons 00:05:40 Programming Languages, TypeScript & C Sharp Struggles 00:08:00 Have We Reached AGI? The Personification Problem 00:10:11 OpenClaw Bots, Gardening Tips & The Plant Tangent 00:14:07 AI Assistants: Memory, Email & Bot-to-Bot Communication 00:17:51 Anthropic Pi Shutdown, Token Costs & API Strategies 00:19:55 AI Harnesses: Cloud Code, Cursor & Developer Tools 00:20:25 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First? 00:21:16 Editor Preferences, Browser Tabs & The Right-Side File Explorer 00:23:39 Google vs LLMs, Composition vs Inheritance & Package Managers 00:25:48 Anthropic vs OpenAI & The OpenClaw Copyright Drama 00:28:02 Crocs, Taylor Swift & The Marketing Empire 00:30:51 Conference Talk Debrief & Inspiring Silly Software 00:31:52 Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: From Yeet to Viral Success 00:35:30 Resend Forward Conference & Building Crafted Software 00:36:23 Doom Runs in Email & Wrapping Up Links Resend: https://resend.com/ Resend Forward Conference: https://resend.com/forward Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: https://github.com/christinamartinez/babel-plugin-gen-z Worst Video Tool: https://worstvideo.tool/ Taylor Swift UI: https://taylorswift.ui/ React: https://react.dev/ React Server Components: https://react.dev/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude Pi: https://pi.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/ Zen Browser: https://zen-browser.app/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Babel: https://babeljs.io/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ PNPM: https://pnpm.io/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Telegram: https://telegram.org/ Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game) Connect with Christina X / Twitter: https://x.com/_christinacodes GitHub: https://github.com/christina-de-martinez Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.