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NATO Research Director on Europe’s Security Future

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Europe’s security order is evolving, but is the Old Continent still able to build the capabilities, resilience and political confidence needed to defend it?

Wojciech Przybylski speaks with Florence Gaub, Director of the Research Division at the NATO Defence College, about Europe’s changing security environment, the limits of old assumptions and the need for strategic foresight.

Gaub, who leads research on future challenges relevant to NATO, argues that Europe does not need a new security architecture. NATO and the EU already provide one, but Europeans must now take far greater responsibility for their own defence, particularly as the US focuses increasingly on China and the Indo-Pacific.

Can Europe close its capability gaps in time? And what will it take for Europeans to move from dependence to genuine strategic responsibility? Listen to the episode.

00:00 Introduction01:24 Europe’s new security architecture05:03 Does Europe have enough time to defend itself?09:06 “Democracies are stronger when they are defending themselves”13:49 Burden sharing and securing Europe’s frontier states16:12 Strategic communication, democratic strength and deterrence22:50 Nuclear deterrence: France and the UK’s role in European security


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