
Emma Lawton and Sarah Baker are therapists and long-time friends who have been in conversation about life, loss, and relationships since 2011. Between them, they bring deep experience in systemic work, trauma, bereavement, and the quiet ways people learn to abandon themselves in order to cope.
Emma is a systemic life coach and family therapist, supporting high-functioning women who look like they’re coping — but feel disconnected, burnt out, and stuck in patterns of self-betrayal at home. Sarah is a therapist specialising in loss, bereavement, and trauma, working with people navigating grief, identity shifts, and life after rupture.
In this episode, their shared history allows for a raw, honest conversation about self-abandonment — how it shows up after loss, within families and relationships, and why making 2026 “the year you put yourself first” isn’t about selfishness, but survival, repair, and choice.
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Emma and Sarah
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