227. Forbidden Planet (1956 with Bill Malone)

Director Bill Malone, former owner of Robby the Robot, joins Kristen to go deep into space for a discussion on 1956's Forbidden Planet. Kristen and Bill discuss the movie's production history, why Walter Pidgeon wasn't a fan, and why Robby became the de facto star. Bill also gives some great backstory on how he came to obtain Robby, and spending time on the dying MGM lot back in the 1970s. Follow Bill's YouTube channel here. Works Referenced: Apocalypse Then: Benefits of the Bomb in Fifties Science Fiction Films by Robert Torry From Trauma to Paranoia: Nuclear Weapons, Science Fiction, and History by Cyndy Hendershot You can ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠now watch episodes of Ticklish Business over on our YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Be sure to like and subscribe to stay in the know on our latest videos. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to buy now! Preorder But Have You Read the Book: Romance Edition here.     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Kate G Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bruce David Klein, director of Liza: A Truly Terrific Absolutely True Story, joins Kristen to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the iconic actress. The two talk about Minnelli's struggles, both personal and professional, her connections to her mother, and why she remains a legend today. You can ⁠⁠⁠⁠now watch episodes of Ticklish Business over on our YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠! Be sure to like and subscribe to stay in the know on our latest videos. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to buy now!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Kate G Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Oscar time and we've got guests Kim Luperi and Danny Reid, author of the great Pre-Code Essentials, talking with us. The duo lay out how the Oscars, still at their origin era, navigated the pre-Code landscape. We also talk about some where Oscar nominations that could have only existed at that time. Buy Kim and Danny's book here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristen is back to flying solo and she didn't burn the joint down! We're celebrating the life and career of the great Diane Keaton, looking at her career-changing performance in 1987's Baby Boom. Joining Kristen is James Spader superfan and '80s lover, Kate Hagen! Kate and Kristen talk about women of the '80s, the Charles Shyer/Nancy Meyers ouevre, and Diane Keaton's best moments in this movie. Are you a Diane Keaton fan? What's your go-to movie? WORKS CITED IN THIS EPISODE Susan Faludi's Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women How Serfdom Saved the Women's Movement by Caitlin Flanagan You can ⁠⁠⁠now watch episodes of Ticklish Business over on our YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠! Be sure to like and subscribe to stay in the know on our latest videos. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to buy now!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Kate G Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The listeners spoke and you wanted Kristen and Emily on the Moors to talk about Heathcliff, Cathy, and 1939's Wuthering Heights. But we couldn't just talk about the movie and Emily Bronte. We needed a Bronte expert. And who better to join us as a guest than the director of the Emily Bronte biopic Emily: Frances O'Connor! O'Connor, Kristen and Emily discuss Bronte's life, whether Heathcliff was a person of color, and why we love this petty story (and why Emily doesn't love it). Emily also has a bittersweet announcement to make this episode. Next Time: We're honoring the life and career of Diane Keaton with a discussion on 1987's Baby Boom. You can ⁠⁠now watch episodes of Ticklish Business over on our YouTube channel⁠⁠! Be sure to like and subscribe to stay in the know on our latest videos. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to buy now!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Patrick Seals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emily and Kristen wanted to do a makeshift Flop-uary and we're doing so by watching what many consider the worst Best Picture winner ever: 1967's Doctor Dolittle. Emily and Kristen break down how the movie got made (blame My Fair Lady), Rex Harrison's talk singing, and the host of issues that made this another expensive disaster for 20th Century Fox. We ran into some issues, technical and personal, with this one. Our original guest Nathan Rabin wasn't able to join us after we had to rerecord but we'd love for you to buy his new book The Fractured Mirror. And apologies for getting this out late. It's been a week! You can ⁠now watch episodes of Ticklish Business over on our YouTube channel⁠! Be sure to like and subscribe to stay in the know on our latest videos. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to buy now!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Patrick Seals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're back for our 10th anniversary season!!! And we're kicking things off with a listener favorite: our first time new discoveries of 2025. We look back at the year that was and the classic films we fell in love with. And we have former Ticklish Biz co-host, Samantha Richardson (nee Ellis) joining us. The trio give their lists and share the movies that almost made them. We also read some of your favorites from last year. You can now watch episodes of Ticklish Business over on our YouTube channel! Be sure to like and subscribe to stay in the know on our latest videos. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to buy now!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Patrick Seals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're on hiatus this week but here's one from our Patreon vault! Author, and Ticklish Biz friend, Scott Eyman joins Kristen and Emily to discuss his latest book, Joan Crawford: A Woman's Face. Eyman talks about dispelling many of the rumors about the star, including those crafted by her daughter Christina, Crawford's power as a star and more. Ticklish Business returns with new episodes on January 21! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We all made it to the end of 2025! This podcast did a lot to keep me sane this year. Chatting with Emily about these movies has meant a lot, and the fact that many of you stuck around for our hiatus...I can't say what it means to us. As we prep for the new year we're doing an old standard: a top 5 on our favorite Christmas movies. We share the ones that make us think of the holiday season, and one pick from Emily shocks Kristen! We also read several of your favorites that you submitted. We wish you all a safe and happy holiday and New Year! We'll be back on January 21st with all new episodes and ready to have the best 2026 ever. See you then. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to pre-order now before it releases on November 13th!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Patrick Seals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Christmas movie we'd planned to discuss last year finally gets its due as we're talking about the Rankin-Bass classic Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. It's just us this week and you know what that means: expect the unexpected. We go down some paths with this episode, from talking about the LGBTQ community this has fostered, to its disability storyline, and whether it's eschewing capitalism or not. Did you know you can now watch our episodes in their entirety? ⁠⁠Watch this episode on our YouTube channel. ⁠⁠Be sure to subscribe over there to be reminded of upcoming episodes. Emily's essay on "Do They Know It's Christmas" is here. Be sure to follow us via social media at @ticklish_biz on X and @ticklishbiz everywhere else. Also like and subscribe to us on all podcast apps and, if you love us, leave us a review. Find Kristen and Emily's books wherever you buy books. Kristen's latest, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Popcorn Disabilities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, is available to pre-order now before it releases on November 13th!     •    Love T shirts, pins, and other merch? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The merch shop is live⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!      •    ICMYI, the best way to support Ticklish Biz is to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:     •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Emily's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    •    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kristen's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was created thanks to our Patrons: Ali Moore Danny David Floyd Gates mcf Shawn Goodreau Richard Silver A Button Called Smalls Chris McKay Jacob Haller Peter Blitstein Debbie Lynne Peter Bryant Reyna Moya-James Linda Lindley Erin Bridget M. Hester Cat Cooper Daniel Tafoya David Baxter Diana Madden Harry Holland Lucy Soles Nick Weerts Patrick Seals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices