Episode 65: Creating the Map for Effective Facilitation with Emily Gardner

What happens when four facilitation buddies team up?A lot of laughter, real-life insights—and even more laughter!In this episode, Saïd Sadouk, Mehdi En-Naizi, and Alexandre Eisenchteter join me for a lively, behind-the-scenes look at Fit for Facilitation—a free, one-week online event packed with interactive sessions to level up your facilitation skills and grow your business. It’s happening online from April 23 to April 30.You’ll hear our unique angles on topics like AI in workshops, selling without sleaze, creating memorable experiences, and the all-too-real Soufflé effect of post-workshop drop-off. This episode is a mini sneak peek of what awaits you during the Fit for Facilitation week.⚡️ Key TakeawaysDiscover how the Fit for Facilitation event came to lifeExplore the future of facilitation: AI, hybrid, and in-house trendsLearn how to sell workshops without feeling “salesy”Get tools to stand out with tech tips, branding, and visual session designUnderstand the power of community and collaboration in a solo careerHear real stories of launching a facilitation business from scratch🔗 Event InfoFit for Facilitation – Free Online Event (April 23–30, 2025)https://fitforfacilitation.com🎟️ 100% Free – Sign up to access all 11 live sessions!👥 Guest InfoSaïd Sadouk – The Facilitainerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/said-saddouk/Mehdi En-Naizi – Facilitators Cornerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/mehdi-en-naizi-75b533116/Alex Eisenchteter – AI Tinkerer Clubhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/eisenchteter/🎙️ Host InfoNathy Ravez – La Workshoppeusehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/nathyravez/https://laworkshoppeuse.kit.com/newsletter

In this episode, Wouter Gheysen, a Systemic Business and Entrepreneur Coach, joins me to explore the invisible forces shaping team dynamics and business growth.We dive into systemic intelligence, how past experiences influence leadership, and practical techniques for facilitatorsto navigate group dynamics effectively. Wouter shares his journey into facilitation, explains the iceberg metaphor for understanding hidden patterns, and offers real-world exercises to help teams uncover and address underlying challenges.If you’ve ever wondered why some teams struggle despite great leadership and strategy, this conversation will change how you see team interactions!⚡️ Key takeaways:Team dynamics go beyond the visible—hidden forces shape collaboration.The iceberg metaphor helps facilitators recognize underlying influences.Systemic work reveals patterns from personal and organizational history.Creating a safe space allows teams to address emotional aspects.Visual mapping and constellations help make hidden dynamics visible.***************************⚠️Join 2 events happening in London21 March 25 - The Inclusive Facilitation exchange🌍 Register here🎟️ Get 10% off your ticket with NATHY1023&24 March 25 - Evivve Stalwart Certification🌍 Register here🎟️ Get 40% off your ticket with NATHYEVIVVE40Guest: Wouter Gheysen🔗 LinkedIn🌍 Website🏢 Company: Out of Our MindsHost: Nathy Ravez | La Workshoppeuse🌟 Connect with Nathy on LinkedIn🎥 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@laworkshoppeuse📩 Join the newsletter

In this episode, Jane Livesey, neuroinclusion advocate, ADHD empowerment coach, and collaboration specialist, joins me to explore how facilitators can create spaces that empower neurodivergent individuals and embrace cognitive diversity in organizations.Together, we break down common misconceptions about ADHD, the power of neurodiversity in fostering innovation, and practical strategies for making facilitation more inclusive. Jane shares her lived experience as a late-diagnosed ADHDer with autism traits and how her passion human-centered practices shapes the way she creates inclusive spaces.We also discuss the upcoming Inclusive Facilitation Exchange Conference in London on March 21st, an event dedicated to building awareness and community around neuroinclusive facilitation practices—so be sure to listen until the end!⚡️ Key takeaways:Neurodiversity is a strength—it fuels creativity and better teamwork.Small changes make a big impact—clear agendas and flexible formats help everyone.Facilitators shape inclusion—we can create spaces where all voices are heard.Join the Inclusive Facilitation Exchange on March 21st to learn more!🎟 Join the Inclusive Facilitation Exchange (#IFE2025) – March 21, London🔗 Event Website: https://inclusivefacilitationexchange.com💡 Podcast Exclusive: Use code NATHY10 for 10% off your ticket!****************************Guest: Jane Livesey🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jane-livesey/Host: Nathy Ravez | La Workshoppeuse🌟 Connect with Nathy on LinkedIn🎥 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@laworkshoppeuse📩 Join the newsletter

In this episode, Deborah Rim Moiso, facilitator, copy editor for SessionLab, and curator of the State of Facilitation Report 2025, joins me to break down the key trends shaping the future of facilitation.We discuss the democratization of facilitation, the growing demand for in-house facilitation roles, and the integration of AI into facilitation workflows. With insights from 1,000+ facilitators worldwide, Deborah shares what’s changing in our field and how facilitators can adapt and thrive.⚡️ Key takeaways: Facilitation is gaining recognition as a key skill in job roles across industries AI is a tool, not a threat, enhancing facilitation workflows Shorter, modular training formats are becoming the norm Maintaining momentum after sessions remains a challenge The future of facilitation is human-led, tech-enhanced⚠️ Don’t miss this episode—it’s packed with essential insights for facilitators looking to future-proof their practice!Guest: Deborah Rim Moiso | Sessionlab🔗 SessionLab:  https://www.sessionlab.com🔗 LinkedIn::https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-rim-moiso-5a21b1167/📃 State of facilitation Report 2025: https://www.sessionlab.com/state-of-facilitation/2025-report/Host: Nathy Ravez | La Workshoppeuse🌟 Connect with Nathy on LinkedIn🎥 Watch on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@laworkshoppeuse📩 Join the newsletter

In this episode, Emily Gardner, facilitator and author of The Path of the Guide, joins me to explore Chapter 3 – Creating the Map of her upcoming book. We dive into the art of structuring workshops, balancing energy dynamics, and using Parkinson’s Law to create focus and momentum. Emily shares practical strategies for mapping out sessionsthat lead to clarity, engagement, and real impact in corporate facilitation. ⚡️ Discover why energy management, flexibility, and structured preparation are key to running effective workshops. ⚠️ Don’t miss this episode—it’s packed with practical insights for facilitators looking to refine their approach! Guest: Emily Gardner | Facilitator & Author 📖 Pre-order The Path of the Guide –Here 🔗 Connect with Emily on Linkedin Host: Nathy Ravez | La Workshoppeuse 🌟 Connect with Nathy on LinkedIn 👀 Watch on Youtube 📩 Join the newsletter Guest: Emily Gardner | Facilitator & AuthorHost: Nathy Ravez | La Workshoppeuse

In this bonus episode, I’m joined by Ben Rouse, a strategic workshop facilitator from England who has mastered the art of crafting workshops that solve specific challenges for organizations. This time, we’re doing something different — not just talking about workshops, but visually exploring one! Ben takes us through his Miro board, sharing a behind-the-scenes look at his unique process for designing effective workshops. **So watch this special visual Episode on YouTube** to see Ben’s Miro board in action and gain practical insights for your own workshops (Youtube @laworkshoppeuse) Join us as we: - Dive into Ben’s signature workshop framework and its adaptability - Discover how Miro enhances workshop design and collaboration - Learn strategies for aligning workshop activities with client goals - Explore real-world challenges and lessons from Ben’s facilitation journey **SPOILER**: Ben turns this workshop into a masterclass you can join in feb/March with a great discount. Voucher Code: NATHY99 via https://evolvingdesign.co/meetings-into-workshops/ This episode is a visual treat and learning experience. Head to YouTube to see Ben’s Miro board in action and gain practical insights for your own workshops. [Insert YouTube Link] Don’t miss this unique case study — it’s a must-watch for every facilitator!

In this episode, I’m excited to welcome Vivian Acquah, a certified DEI advocate, trainer, and speaker, who is on a mission to create inclusive spaces where everyone can thrive. Born and raised in Amsterdam with Ghanaian roots, Vivian brings a wealth of personal and professional experience, blending her background in financial and IT consulting with her passion for diversity, equity, and inclusion. We delve into her unique approaches, from using food metaphors to explain DEI to leveraging virtual reality and DEI card decks for fostering empathy and courageous conversations. **Tune in to discover:** - Vivian’s journey from maternity bias to becoming a DEI advocate - The difference between diversity, equity, and inclusion and why they matter - How virtual reality can transform DEI training - The role of DEI card decks in starting impactful conversations and building strategies **Quotation:** *"Empathy is the unlocker for inclusion."* — Vivian Acquah --- 🤗 [HEY NATHY](https://forms.gle/B1XU76R8KmunizZb7): Send your comments, questions, and suggestions

In this special episode, I look back on 2024—a year of podcasting milestones, global facilitation experiences, and personal growth. From hosting **25 podcast episodes** to working with clients across continents, this year highlighted the power of connection and transformation through facilitation. I also share plans for 2025, focusing on leadership, team development, and work-life balance. **Tune in to discover:** - A review of key podcast episodes and inspiring guest contributions - Why people—not AI—are the heart of successful transformation - Reflections on balancing professional growth and personal well-being - Plans for creating impactful leadership and team development experiences in 2025 **Quotation:** *"The real priority in transformation isn't AI, it's people.”* — Nathy Ravez --- 🤗 [HEY NATHY](https://forms.gle/B1XU76R8KmunizZb7): Share your ideas, feedback, or topic suggestions for the podcast 💌 Sign up for the Workshoppeuse [Newsletter](https://laworkshoppeuse.ck.page/gazette-signup-from-podcast)

In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Jenny Martin, the collaboration coach with a unique approach to helping teams connect, collaborate, and unlock their full potential. Jenny is an active voice in the Agile community, known for her expertise in team collaboration and effectiveness and frequently shares her insights at events across Europe. Recently, she completed a post-grad in 'The Psychology of Kindness and Wellbeing at Work,' adding another layer to her facilitation work. Together, we explore her methods, tools, and the role of positive psychology in creating impactful workshops. **Tune in to discover:** - Jenny’s journey to becoming a "secret weapon" for team collaboration - Key elements to foster psychological safety and trust in teams - The power of LEGO SERIOUS PLAY® for unleashing creativity - How StrongSuits® builds trust through positive psychology principles **Quotation:** *"Playfulness keeps people engaged."* — Jenny Martin --- 🤗 [HEY NATHY](https://forms.gle/B1XU76R8KmunizZb7): Send your comments, questions and suggestion 💌 Sign up for the Workshoppeuse [Newsletter](https://laworkshoppeuse.ck.page/gazette-signup-from-podcast)

*Why Every Facilitator Should Prioritize Feedback and Reflection* In this episode, I sit down with Tes Cohen, founder of Transformative Gatherings. Driven by a mission to foster curiosity and community, Tes is dedicated to creating spaces that cultivate belonging and continuous learning. Together, we dive into the essential yet often overlooked process of post-workshop debriefing. Tes shares her five foundational steps for crafting impactful gatherings and provides actionable insights on how to conduct effective debriefs that can elevate future sessions. From key debrief questions to strategies for long-term client communication, this conversation offers a wealth of knowledge for facilitators aiming to maximize the impact of their workshops. **Tune in to discover:** - Tes’s unique journey into facilitation - The 5 keys to creating transformative gatherings - Why debriefing is essential and the benefits of recording workshop processes - How ongoing client communication amplifies the long-term impact of sessions - A look at Tess's Debrief Meeting process: Round Robin, Reflections, and Team Shout Outs **Quotation:** *"The magic of the debrief is to actually use it."* – Tes Cohen --- LINK TO 🔗 [Survey](https://stateoffacilitation.typeform.com/SoFSurvey2024/?utm_campaign=sof&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=Nathy) by SessionLab 🔗 [Seen on Scene](https://www.seeninscenes.butter.us) - Butter 24h Festival 🤗 [HEY NATHY](https://forms.gle/B1XU76R8KmunizZb7): Fill in the formand join the Podcast Meet & Greet