
Normally Podcast: 25 Years After 9/11, Remembering Charlie Kirk & America’s Free Speech Crisis
Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz mark two somber anniversaries while looking at what they mean for America today: 25 years since the September 11 terrorist attacks and one year since the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Mary Katharine and Karol reflect on their own memories of 9/11, the fear and uncertainty Americans experienced in the aftermath, and the extraordinary heroism of first responders and ordinary citizens. They also discuss how younger generations understand the attacks, the rise of 9/11 conspiracy theories, and how parents can teach their children about that day while emphasizing courage, service and resilience.
Then, one year after Charlie Kirk was murdered at Utah Valley University, they examine his legacy, the reaction to his death and what his loss means for political debate and free speech on college campuses. They also dig into new college free-speech rankings and their concerns about students who say shouting down speakers—or even using violence in some circumstances—is acceptable.
Finally, things get lighter as Mary Katharine and Karol tackle relationships, honesty in marriage and the viral “haircut” debate before asking why Gen Z is struggling with dating. Is the dreaded “ick” keeping people from giving promising relationships a chance—and have dating apps and online culture made finding a partner unnecessarily complicated?
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