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Bruce Pearl(s) of Wisdom with Clay Travis

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Bruce Pearl sat down with Clay Travis in Nashville for a full career conversation — from a $12,000-a-year part-time job at Stanford to the Final Four, and everything that went sideways in between.

Pearl walks through the whole arc: getting his start under Tom Davis at 21, cutting his teeth in Division II at Southern Indiana, the Sweet 16 run at Wisconsin-Milwaukee that put him on the map, the Ernie Grunfeld phone call that got him hired at Tennessee, the NCAA case that cost him the job, and the rebuild at Auburn that ended in a Final Four. He's candid about the mistakes — including the coaching decision he calls the biggest of his career, and exactly what he told the NCAA that got him fired.

He also gets into the stuff that doesn't show up in a box score: turning down a job because he couldn't get through the goodbye speech, raising four kids while chasing championships, watching his son Stephen coach the program he built, his grandfather's escape from Ternopil in 1929, and why he takes his players to Israel.

Clay and Bruce go back to Pearl's days as a $50-a-show basketball analyst on 3HL in Nashville — so this one covers ground most interviews don't get to.

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