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179. The Evolving Landscape of DEI with Elena Joy Thurston

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In 2025, the landscape of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) work is rapidly evolving and facing well documented challenges, but these challenges also offer new opportunities and growth. Today’s guest, Elena Joy Thurston, an HR consultant, discusses the evolution and challenges facing DEI; shares her personal journey of deconstructing internalized biases and how that informs her approach; and she closes out this insightful conversation by highlighting the important work that needs to be done moving forward. Throughout the conversation, Elena emphasizes the need to move away from an "us vs. them" mentality and instead focus on universal themes that bring people together.

Guest’s Website:

latitude

Guest Mentions: 

Joyful Office Hours - Zoom

Burnout Prevention Starter Kit — latitude

Dr. Russell A. Barkley - Dedicated to Education and Research on ADHD

Taking Charge of Adult ADHD a book by Russell A Barkley PhD Abpp Abcn and Christine M Benton - Bookshop.org US

Attention-Deficit Neuropsychology (ADHD) Part 1 with Dr. Russell Barkley — alie ward

TALK BIG QUESTIONS

Use these prompts to have the opposite of small talk in real life.

  • What was your definition or understanding of DEI prior to this episode?  Has it changed?

  • Have you felt burnout personally or professionally?     

  • Prior to this episode were you aware of the nuances of the Gen Z professional?

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