The Unbelievable Complexities of Music: Lenses, Ancient and Modern

Matthew Allison discusses the metaphysical and theological implications of infinity plus the influence of dualism and Gnosticism on philosophical discussions. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Matthew on the Infinite 06:00 Heidegger 06:55 Wittgenstein 08:00 The significance of chiasms in biblical texts and how they reflect divine inspiration 14:00 Phenomenology 22:00 Reflections on Hebrews chapter 11, focusing on the theme of faith and the biblical figures who endured suffering without receiving God's promises. 30:00 The Nature of time and relationship 34:00 Methodological a priori and its implications 43:00 Contrasting Maximus's approach with that of Neoplatonists, pointing out that while he engaged with their ideas, he did not adopt their analytic framework. This distinction is significant for scholars studying the intersection of philosophy and religion. 46:00 Exploring Ontology and Methodology in human experience 53:00 The connections between choreography and spirituality in community 59:00 Square dance and its potential relationship to experiential dna

Karen and Haris explore Julian Barbour's theory of time and the universe, "nothing without ratios" while discussing the role of ratios in both mathematical theories and artistic expression.

Balazs Kegl, Head of AI Research for Huawei Paris, meets Annie Crawford, C S Lewis Scholar, to discover the crossovers between AI research and Lewis' concept of transposition of the higher into the lower, also looking at Michael Levin's Bowtie Theory, Chiastic Structures and Modes of Knowing. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and overview of AI and Transposition 13:17 Exploring AI Text Generating and style adaptation 15:31 Understanding Randomness in AI Outputs 20:10 Consciousness and Communication27:04 C S Lewis' concepts of Transposition and Modes of Knowing 36:49 Creativity and Memory in relation to Info Theory 46:09 Chiastic structures and bowtie theory in life and literature 51:13 The triune pattern in creativity

Drew, with a master's in ethnomusicology and a voracious interest in all things music, joins The Meaning Code today to open up the ancient view of music as relationships, balance, proportion. Through the lens of Aristoxenus and Boethius, we explore -memory as the mother of the muses -the original meaning of Harmonia as proportion and balance -relationships between notes in a melody -principles of Melos - realign, reharmonizes body, soul, mind -dunamis (function - power & potential) Music doesn't exist at any one time but between times. Memory fixes the past and perception leads to the future. Before Plato, all knowledge was in poetry form. Music of the Spheres or Harmony of the Cosmos? Music as an apologetic

Brendan Graham Dempsey and Cory Barker help Karen to gain a greater understanding of Metamodernism. Brendan is writer, poet, farmer, and systems thinker. As Director of Sky Meadow Institute, he works on productively bridging the divide between science and spirituality. Cory has a Master of Arts in Social Science and Informatics and is working on a PhD with a research focus on applying big picture thinking to improved AGI design. He serves as President of the Archdisciplinary Research Center (Arc.voyage) If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend my first conversation with Cory Barker as background (which explores the concept of moving from discipline, to interdisciplinary, transdisciplinarity and finally to archdisciplinarity as a method of solving intractable problems.) We also cover how the world works and other interesting things:-). https://youtu.be/LwqByLmk1AU?si=LqS2kXXfo4-Qj99_ Topics covered: (If anyone wants to turn this into timestamps, go for it.) AGI, LLM's, tokenization and statistical inference Computable functions related to development psychology The natural relations of Knowledge More efficient systems that take less energy to run The brain autonomously organizes information Universal classes of human experience Dynamic skill Theory, Kurt Fischer Reflexes, sensory motor, representations skills, pairing concepts and action/words, abstraction The Universal Learning Process Adaptive Complexity Coupling of an agent to its environment (wittedness) Variation and selective retention Autopoesis and cognition Coupling between elements and the formal systems Unlike other animals, we are not perfectly fitted to our environment, but are made for space Antagonism drives adaptation. We are not endlessly pliable Our linguistic component allows us to go off into abstract space The free energy principle, maximum freedom Think beyond our environments We advance on the basis of our previous equilibriums Ted Lasso and metamodernism Critique and transcend (the pattern of culture shock, also) Universal process of automation Cause and Effect Forming a stable system with a boundary space Cascades through the interior Universal process of concretion Creates a stake through the system The optical way to process info Free energy principal A set of expectations, a model that we hope will hold up and avoid surprise We continually update our model and that will minimize the distance between our expectation and the reality Anomaly drives hierarchical complexification How space affects equilibrium Turning point Ted Lasso and space Earnestness and Sincerity in the context of irony and cynicism Bill Tolbert, Action Inquiry A stage model of managerial styles postmodernism - ironist metamodern - a sense of coherence @ what is going on Understanding how things are relating to each other Arch modernism Entropy production is creative Alicia Juarrero Maximum complexity before it becomes chaos Randomness is not high in info Chaology - a study of the hidden order inside chaos, too difficult for us to understand at this point Metamodernism, transcending the critique of postmodernism

Brantley Vosler, host of the Transposition Podcast, joins Karen to talk about C S Lewis' essay of that name, as well as Lewis' argument against Bulverism. Along the way, we dive into the symbolism of Silo! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:00 Exploring the Concept of Transposition 09:08 The Transposition of Ideas in Music 14:26 Vertical Causation and Spirituality 20:50 Themes of Power and Weakness in Scripture 27:34 Symbolism in "Silo" and Christian Hope 37:04 Discussion on Themes of Hope and Love in Family Dynamics 44:51 Reflections on Love and Gratitude 51:03 C S Lewis' argument against Bulverism 1:00:56 Transposition and AI Insights 1:06:01 Understanding Bulverism and Its Implications 1:13:57 Reductionism as an inversion of transposition

Neal initiated a discussion on the intersection of evolutionary principles and human social phenomena, particularly in relation to organizations and art. He critiqued the dominant scientific perspective that views beauty as a byproduct of natural selection, proposing instead that beauty and design principles are independent evolutionary forces. Neal introduced a dual force model that includes a push away from vulnerability and a pull towards an instinct for quality and beauty, referencing eight principles of design to illustrate these concepts.

Karen Wong and Joy Frimpong engage in a conversation about progressivism, exploring how Joy's educational experiences contributed to her understanding of the ideology. Joy notes that while she can't point to a specific moment of indoctrination, the influence of media and cultural narratives played a significant role in shaping her views. She describes this influence as a "cultural dis-ease" that permeated her academic environment. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:00 The nature of progressivism and its influence on individual identity. 03:10 Reflections on Academic Experience and Ideological Influences 16:57 Progressivism and Utopia. Joy elaborated on the embedded telos within progressivism, arguing that it promotes a self-centric worldview and lacks a grounding in faith expressing concern that this perspective leads to a deceptive notion of progress and justice. 25:03 The concept of sin and its relation to personal identity, suggesting that the struggle between good and evil exists within each individual. How external power structures can lead to internalized anger and health issues. 41:25 Shame and guilt can lead to a sense of dissociation from identity 1:06:25 Personal reflections on education and growth through struggle

Tyler Hollett, a problem-solver and facilitator within Discord communities, shares insights from his journey through various online spaces and the creation of the Metagora project, which aims to streamline educational curricula within a community setting. They conclude by discussing the potential of Tyler's website, which features a dynamic visual representation of available knowledge along with opportunities presented by challenges as catalysts for growth and innovation. Timestamps: 00:00 Exploring Identity and Meaning in a Digital Age 08:38 Tyler’s Journey Through Despair and Discovery 17:30 Concept of "Not Knowing" and Growth Mechanisms 20:53 Collective Dynamics and the Nature of Reality 40:41 Exploring Collective Understanding and Community Building 50:41 Website Functionality and Community Rebuilding Concepts 54:50 The Interplay of Meaning, Relationship, and Choice 1:02:50 Tyler's Journey and Educational Initiatives 1:13:48 Exploring the Nature of Life and Matter 1:25:00 Discussion on Project Development and Website Features

Michael has been a regular on The Meaning Code discussing such topics as Owen Barfield, data compression and radical orthodoxy, and today, he joins to consider the meaning and role of narrative. Topics Covered: Exploring Particle Self-Organization The Limits of Objective Perspective in Science and Transcendence Computational Epistemology and Meaning in Tradition Exploring Desires and Identity through the Lens of Jesus The Intersection of Science and Christianity Evolution of Scientific Narratives Reflections on Control and Freedom Discussion on AI Tools and Personal Updates