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Noam Scheiber on the "Class Confidence" of the Overqualified

6/4/2026
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Today on The Gist, Mike Pesca explores his history with labor unions, contrasting the time-and-a-half efficiency of NPR with the more complicated protections of WNYC. Then, The New York Times’ Noam Scheiber joins to discuss his new book, Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class, and how a generation of overqualified workers is using their "class confidence" to unionize service-sector giants like Apple and Starbucks. Plus, a deep dive into the "What if [Animal] had a job?" formula of animated movies and Mike’s meta-pitch for a cinematic universe where horses are viewed through the judgmental eyes of cows.

Produced by Corey Wara

Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig

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