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'The Interview': The Head of NATO Thinks President Trump 'Deserves All the Praise'

5/7/2025
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Secretary general Mark Rutte has only good things to say about the mercurial U.S. leader and his impact on the world stage. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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