Breakdown: UFO Hearings Delayed – Science, Signals & Secrets (Pt. 1)

🎙️ Pre-order Andy’s new book Atlas of UFOs now: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure. We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward. Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs Meeting Lue Elizondo The Controversial Congressional Briefing Mistakes in public Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence Government Accountability and Ufology 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: [email protected] All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening,  Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Another busy week in UFO world, another UFO news round up with a few really interesting moments from Weaponized with Corbell & Knapp, Diana Pasulka smashes an interview out the park &. new evidence coming soon? Corbell drops locations of UFO interest! Dustin Slaughter bringing new evidence forward Diana Pasulka interview with NYT AARO Tim Phillips brought 'Skeptics' into be briefed New Under Sec Air Force UFO experiences Upcoming guests Tim Phillips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKAX6IFORU Weaponized - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOzth5nQorw Pasulka - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n4nctI60c Get in touch with the show: 📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact 🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM 📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast 📧 Email: [email protected] 🎙️ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Carrying on the Breakdown, Dan stayed on with me to answer your questions on some of the news happening, including: New 'Buga'/'Yumbo' Sphere Controversy Shades of Disclosure Community Dynamics and Disinformation Tic-Tac UFOs and Breakaway Civilizations Human Technology vs. Alien Craft Consciousness and Reality Disclosure and Government Secrecy Final Thoughts Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal Get in touch with the show: 📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact 🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM 📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast 📧 Email: [email protected] 🎙️ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

There is so much going on in the UFO/UAP world right now. I'm joined by Dan to break down a whole load of news, including: Delay to hearings Potential witnesses for upcoming hearings Garry Nolan's insights on UFOs and scientific skepticism Electromagnetic signals and UAPs Historical context and literature DMT research and other dimensions Tic-Tac UFOs and breakaway civilizations Disclosure and government secrecy Links mentioned on the show: 📝 UAP Petition: https://uapda.org/petition 🎥 James Fox docs: YouTube link 🎙️ Nolan on Peterson: YouTube link 🛸 MUFON Symposium: https://mufonsymposium.com/ Get in touch with the show: 📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact 🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM 📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast 📧 Email: [email protected] 🎙️ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

Here is your latest news round-up from the last few days in the world of UFOs: Ross Coulthart clarifies comments Hearings delayed until September Pilots of 'crash retrieval vehicles' appearing? NewsNation recap Multiple reports drop on UFO sightings NewsNation recap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z4a_GK-dkE Canadian report: https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/office-chief-science-advisor/sky-canada-project/management-public-reporting-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-canada#appendix-b NUFORC report: https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/2000-ufo-sightings-first-half-2025/ Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: That UFO Podcast YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: ⁠⁠[email protected] All podcast & associated links: ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

We continue to look at the news stories that have dominated the headlines in recent weeks but also the first half of 2025, including: Age of Disclosure: Missed Opportunities? Skywatcher: Promises and Skepticism Whistleblowers and Public Perception AARO Leadership and Future Observatory's Sky Scans UFO Data and Public Perception UK UAP Hearings and Legislation Closing Thoughts Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast" YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected] All podcast links & associated links: ⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam⁠ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show Enjoy folks, Andy

A bonus episode for you this weekend to look back at my first roundtable conversation from August 2020, but there's a big reason this one is worth checking out. These are three witnesses to the Tic Tac event of November 2004, all from differing expertise and vantage points. Very much worth diving into given the huge talking points Ross Coulthart, Eric Burlison & others have brought up around the origins of the Tic Tac craft.  Recounting the 2004 Nimitz Encounter   Personal Experiences and Reactions   New Revelations and Classified Information   Speculations on the Origin of UAPs   Impact on Military and Public Perception   Certainty of Radar and Visual Sightings   Radar Capabilities and Debunking Theories   Underwater Craft  Data Collection and Chain of Custody   Future of UAP Disclosure   Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast" YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected] All podcast links & associated links: ⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam⁠ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show Enjoy folks, Andy

* Part 1 of 2 * ** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** I am joined by Dan to discuss a range of breaking UFO news, including Ross Coulthart's explosive claim about Tic-Tac technology being developed by Lockheed Martin, updates on the Sky Watcher project, and the latest whistleblowers. We also delve into the implications of recent UFO sightings and tech, a new observatory's potential astronomical revelations, and the debated impact of government legislation on UAP disclosure. The Tic-Tac Incident Ross Coulthart's Bold Claims Debating the Tic-Tac Technology The Nimitz Encounter Breakdown Lockheed Martin and Advanced Tech Community Reactions and Speculations The Drone Debate MUFON material analysis coming Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast" YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected] All podcast links & associated links: ⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam⁠ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show Enjoy folks, Andy

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** With so much news in the last few days, here is a round-up of whats going on right now with the UFO topic, including: Ross Coulthart told the Tic-Tac was Lockheed Martin technology The 2024/25 Drone flap was Chinese/US  Baltic Sea Anomaly expedition MUFON promise results of exotic material Check out Graeme's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq4XkDeGQCI&list=PLTtqtD1VMqymtHxwLgj_JZNH78gfQI9Bu Check out Coulthart & Zabel NTK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmxyApOGPCA&t=3212s Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast" YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected] All podcast links & associated links: ⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam⁠ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show Enjoy folks, Andy

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