The Evergreen Strategy Generating Millions… And Better Products

Evergreen founder and CEO Emily Groden arrived at Expo West 2026 leading one of the fastest-growing brands in frozen breakfast. But just a few years earlier, she was hand-making waffles in a shared kitchen and pitching corner stores with a toaster tucked into a duffel bag. In this episode, Emily explains how she turned a personal frustration into a breakout brand built on clean-label frozen waffles and pancakes made with real, whole-food ingredients. She shares why she refused to compromise on quality, even when it made manufacturing more difficult, and how Evergreen is leveraging protein innovation, strong retail data and a sharper family-focused brand identity to scale across channels. It's a candid look at what it takes to build a modern CPG company – from zero experience to category leadership – while staying anchored to the mission of getting better food into more kids' hands. Show notes: 0:20: Emily Groden, Founder & CEO, Evergreen – Emily discusses the launch of Evergreen's new pancakes and a clean-label protein line made with Greek yogurt and egg whites. She reflects on the brand's origins and how she built the company from scratch with no CPG background, self-funding the business and landing early retail accounts through scrappy, hands-on efforts. She explains how a recent rebrand helped better communicate Evergreen's core audience of families, shifting from a health-first perception to a more joyful, accessible identity. The conversation also covers Evergreen's broader mission to improve kids' nutrition at scale, its focus on affordability and mass distribution, and how strong retail data has fueled expansion by proving the brand brings new, high-value shoppers into the category. Emily also touches on fundraising, founder discipline, and why staying anchored to a clear personal "north star" has been critical to building the brand without compromising its values. Brands in this episode: Evergreen

David Protein just got hit with a lawsuit claiming its macros don't add up, raising familiar questions about labeling, ingredients, and what happens when a fast-growing brand lands in the legal spotlight. The team breaks down the claims, why brands become litigation magnets, and whether consumers will care. Plus:  a readout from Seafood Expo North America and Stiller Soda's attention-grabbing social push. Show notes: 0:20: A Month-Ish Away. Stage Presence. Scaling, Suing. SENA Observations. Not Ben Stiller. Shots. – The hosts promote the upcoming Taste Radio NYC meetup and BevNET Live, including the New Beverage Showdown competition. They follow up with a discussion centered on David Protein and a class action lawsuit alleging discrepancies in the fat and calorie content of its bars. The hosts debate whether such controversies meaningfully impact consumer trust and how legal challenges are common for fast-growing brands. The conversation shifts to trends observed at the 2026 Seafood Expo North America trade show, where innovation focused on convenience, value-added products, and protein-rich offerings. The hosts also discuss a humorous social media campaign for Stiller's Soda featuring Ben Stiller, and highlight Monfefo wellness shots and indulgent "Killer Brownies." Brands in this episode: David Protein, RXBAR, Diet Coke, Aqua Mar, Stiller Soda, Monfefo, Lumen, Vive Organic, Killer Brownie, Goldilocks, Vita Coco

Gary Vaynerchuk believes the future of CPG might look a lot more like Pokémon than packaged goods. We met up with Gary at Expo West 2026, where the entrepreneur and marketing powerhouse discussed Very Luckee, his new better-for-you gummy brand that pairs the promise of ultra-clean ingredients with collectible stickers from his VeeFriends character universe.  In the conversation, Gary explains how the idea came together, why he's betting big on collectibles as a driver of consumer engagement, how organic social media will power the brand's growth, and why entrepreneurs should embrace "micro quitting" when a strategy or product isn't working. Show notes: 0:20: Gary Vaynerchuk, Co-Founder, Very Luckee – On location at Expo West 2026, Gary discusses the origins of Very Luckee, its focus on ultra-clean ingredients, and its approach to blending CPG with collectability. He shares his perspective on modern brand building, emphasizing the importance of consistently creating content across multiple social platforms. Gary also highlights the growing role of influencer advocacy and emerging commerce channels. He offers advice for entrepreneurs as well, encouraging founders to let go of tactics that aren't working while remaining committed to long-term ambitions. Gary also notes that entrepreneurship is a "hits-driven" business that requires humility, self-awareness, and a willingness to pivot when necessary. Brands in this episode: Very Luckee, Empathy Wines

Target is expanding its food and beverage footprint with new store concepts and larger grocery sections – potentially creating more space for emerging brands. In this episode, the hosts discuss what it means for startups and also spotlight notable trends and brands from Expo West. We also revisit interviews from our Miami meetup, including a conversation with angel investor Spencer Slaine on what he looks for in early-stage brands. Show notes: 0:20: Expo Energy. IRL All Year. Nom News. Bullseye, Babe. Mez & The Gang. Citrus Boost. – The hosts recap the energy and standout trends from Expo West and preview upcoming industry events, including BevNET Live and Taste Radio meetups. Melissa highlights a Nombase Podcast episode that features insights from investors who launched their own CPG brand and revealed how they think about pricing, ingredients, and growth. The hosts also discuss Target's expanding focus on food and beverage and how founders can take advantage, highlight a major funding round for protein bar brand Mezcla and reflect on brands born during the COVID era. They sample several new products, including espresso sodas, probiotic mouthwash (yep) and cocoa-flavored bone broth. 32:27: Interviews from Taste Radio's Miami Meetup – We kick things off with Spencer Slaine, a founding member of The Angel Group, who explains how the early-stage investment network helps early-stage CPG brands bridge the funding gap with both capital and operator expertise. He is followed by Little Saints founder and CEO Megan Klein who shares how her functional, non-alcoholic cocktail brand was born out of  a personal shift toward moderation and has become an anchor in the fast-growing adult non-alcoholic beverage category. Rounding out the discussion is AB InBev's Conrad Barrett who talks about PerfectDraft, a countertop system designed to bring bar-quality draft beer into the home, highlighting how consumer feedback and AI-driven insights are shaping its growth.  Brands in this episode: Little Saints, PerfectDraft, Stella Artois, Guinness, Athletic Brewing, Lucky Energy, Kate Farms, Trip, Mingle Mocktails, Cadooz, Mezcla, Poppi, Fishwife, B.T.R. Nation, Unite Foods, Folkland, Farmwell, Painterland Sisters, One Degree Organics, Moozy, Singing Pastures, Esspo, Manhattan Special, Basicase, Pikora, PWR UP, Good & Gather

The latest episode of Taste Radio's Elevator Talk spotlights innovative leaders from Elevator Talk: Sous Casa, Love&Cookies, Caltein, Madres Churros and TofuGo.   The founders and operators introduce their brands and share recent company updates and milestones. This week's special co-host is Allison Ball, the founder of Food Biz Wiz.   She offers insightful questions, thoughtful feedback, and strategic perspective alongside regular host Ray Latif, editor and producer of the Taste Radio podcast.   Early-stage food and beverage entrepreneurs are encouraged to apply for future episodes of Elevator Talk. Participation is free, interviews are conducted remotely, and it's a unique opportunity to pitch your product, share news, and receive expert feedback from industry leaders.    Apply now to be featured in an upcoming episode.

Eight years after his first appearance on Taste Radio, Nick Green, co-founder and CEO of pioneering online grocer Thrive Market, returns with a clear message: the future of healthy living will be shaped less by trend-chasing and more by trust, technology and simplicity. In this episode, Nick explains how Thrive is navigating a rapidly evolving wellness landscape molded by AI, GLP-1 drugs and growing consumer skepticism, while staying grounded in its mission to make healthy living more accessible and affordable. He also shares how Thrive evaluates brands, why taste matters most, and why he increasingly sees the company – which generated over $900 million in revenue in 2025 – not just as an online grocery store, but as a personalized health platform for modern consumers. Show notes: 0:20: Nick Green, Co-Founder & CEO, Thrive Market  – Nick reflects on how both he and Thrive Market have evolved since his first appearance on the podcast in 2018. While acknowledging volatility across the natural products industry, he explains why Thrive remains focused on enduring trends around health, transparency and accessibility. Nick discusses how Thrive defines "healthy," how it uses data to personalize discovery for members, and why he believes AI will deepen the company's relationship with subscribers. He also explains how Thrive's membership model attracts a nationwide base of "wellness champions," and how its strict quality standards guide its curation strategy. He shares why authenticity and taste matter most when evaluating brands, and how Thrive serves as a launchpad for emerging companies. Nick also discusses Thrive's growing own-brand business, weighs in on trends like protein, functional mushrooms and non-alcoholic beverages, and describes how the company increasingly sees itself not just as an online grocer, but as a technology platform helping consumers navigate healthy living. Brands in this episode: JOON, SkinnyDipped, Mud\Wtr, Four Sigmatic, Quantum Energy Squares

Expo West 2026 made one thing clear: food and beverage brands are racing to add function, but the ones that nail flavor have the best chance of winning. The hosts break down the show's biggest trends, from protein-packed everything to standout brands in candy, beverages, frozen treats, and snacks, while sharing the products and ideas that reinforced a simple truth: in modern CPG, taste still comes first. Show notes: 0:23: Barking Dogs. Plenty Of Protein. Where's The Fiber? Blurring Lines. Sweet (Date) Treats. – The hosts are wiped but loquacious as they break down the biggest themes and trends from Expo West. They highlight the surge of protein across nearly every category – from popcorn, chips, and pretzels to beverages and ice cream – and debate whether some applications make sense today or may become more relevant in the future. Ray emphasizes that taste remains the ultimate test, spotlighting standout brands such as high-protein ice cream maker Protein Pints. The team also notes that added fiber was surprisingly less visible at the show and wonders whether it faces a bigger consumer education hurdle than protein. They examine emerging beverages like spiked prebiotic or probiotic sodas and question their long-term appeal. Beyond functional products, they highlight innovative brands discovered around the show, including crispy jerky chips, soy-based high-protein yogurt, sea moss lemonade, non-alcoholic cocktail alternatives, a modern MSG brand, and date-based candies positioned as better-for-you sweets. Brands in this episode: Khloud, Jam Packed, Lumen, Sky Pop, David, Protein Pints, Manitoba Harvest, Belly Well, Poppi, Pop Sips, Beast, YAY's, Tezza, Bitter Love, Tips, Mother Root, OSIA, Dime MSG, Black Beverly Hills, Oh My Dessert Butter, Sleet Pops, Chara, Benny Bites, Ohum, Kias, Gato, Lasso Jello, Wobbled Jello, Very Lucky, True Dates, Joolie's, Smood, Daddl, Harken Sweets, Farmwell, Quip, House of Joy, Crafty Ramen, Prickly, Fresh Fizz, Leisure, RXBAR, Häagen-Dazs, Ben & Jerry's, Van Leeuwen, Swedish Fish, Mounds, Almond Joy, High Noon

Nationwide Whole Foods distribution. A seven-figure DTC engine. A five-person team. In this episode, Ashley Nickelsen, the founder and CEO of nutrition bar and chocolate brand B.T.R. Nation, breaks down the systems behind her brand's growth, from using DTC zip-code data to unlock retail expansion, to building a creative-first Meta ads strategy that drives real revenue (not just impressions).  She shares why velocity is her North Star metric, how she thinks about omnichannel as a flywheel – not separate businesses – how she evaluates when syndicated data is worth the cost, and why she chose to self-warehouse to maintain margin and operational control.  Ashley also unpacks her approach to pricing across channels, portfolio expansion beyond a single hero SKU, and constant creative testing in one of grocery's most competitive categories.  Show notes: 0:20: Ashley Nickelsen, Founder & CEO, B.T.R. Nation – Ashley talks about her deep ties to New York City and a life largely spent on the road for work. She also shares her path into CPG from a master's in higher education and then into the supplement world and applied lessons from her experience to B.T.R., Ashley's discusses evolution as a spokesperson and her belief that brands need a consistent "face," explains B.T.R.'s origin story and how losing both parents to rare cancers before age 30 shaped her mission and her decision to avoid natural flavors. She describes how trust and community grew "organically" through direct customer engagement and helps generate retail discovery and online reorders across channels. She also details how B.T.R. approaches growth with constant iteration while keeping affordability and velocity in mind, and shares practical learnings on Meta advertising and how to pair digital attribution with retail data stories to win new accounts. Brands in this episode: B.T.R. Nation, Spindrift, Mid-Day Squares, Graza, Simple Mills, Siete, Perfect Bar, Lily's, Unreal, Heinz, Crumbl

Is Big Food finally catching up to emerging brands on speed to market? As legacy CPG giants roll out protein- and fiber-forward innovations faster than ever, the team debates whether startups still hold the advantage. Plus, we give a heartfelt sendoff to Jacqui Brugliera as she departs BevNET after 12 years. Show notes: 0:23: Honoring A Legend. More Meetups! Heading West. Speedy Delivery. Creamy Everything. – Ray Latif and co-hosts John Craven and Mike Schneider mark Jacqui Brugliera's final show at BevNET after 12 years, sharing heartfelt praise for her impact as a teammate, friend, and steadying presence. The conversation then shifts to a recap of Taste Radio's recently held Miami meetup as well as an upcoming event in New York City on April 16. The hosts also discuss whether big CPG brands are catching up to entrepreneurial ones as they chase "better-for-you" trends like protein and fiber and whether legacy companies can truly match the credibility and branding agility of smaller players. They also riff on the rise of "creamy condiments" and highlight a new RTD Vietnamese coffee, a decaf sparkling coffee, buttermilk pancake mix, hop-infused cocktails, and a wave of new products from Athletic Brewing. Brands in this episode: Doritos, Smartfood, SunChips, Angie's Boomchickapop, Rebel Roots, Poppi, Fruities, CronchClub, Lasso, Tia Lupita, Bachan's, AleSmith, Athletic Brewing, Guinness, Fuzzee Coffee, North Shore Roasters, Phoenicia Diner

The latest episode of Taste Radio's Elevator Talk spotlights innovative leaders from Elevator Talk: Shyft Energy, Drink H2O, Psilly Goose, Kaviva and Pink Palm.   The founders and operators introduce their brands and share recent company updates and milestones. This week's special co-host is Czar Daniolco, the founder of distribution company HiTouch Libations.   He offers insightful questions, thoughtful feedback, and strategic perspective alongside regular host Ray Latif, editor and producer of the Taste Radio podcast.   Early-stage food and beverage entrepreneurs are encouraged to apply for future episodes of Elevator Talk. Participation is free, interviews are conducted remotely, and it's a unique opportunity to pitch your product, share news, and receive expert feedback from industry leaders.    Apply now to be featured in an upcoming episode.