S7 E8a - The AtlAS Conference

🎧 Episode Description – Live with Ann Ryan Robertson (AtlAS Conference) Our first-ever LIVE episode of Tales of the Tribunal — recorded at the 2025 Atlanta International Arbitration Society (AtlAS) Annual Conference — features none other than Ann Ryan Robertson. Ann is one of the most respected voices in international arbitration: Former President of the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators (CIArb) Newly independent international arbitrator Leader, mentor, and advocate for excellence, diversity, and integrity in the field In this special live conversation, Ann and Chris discuss: Her journey from trial lawyer to globally recognized arbitrator Leading CIArb through the complexities of the pandemic Why cognitive diversity may be the most important form of diversity in dispute resolution How arbitration is adapting to innovation, energy transition, and shifting global priorities The traits she believes make truly effective advocates Reflections on mentorship, ethics, and the future of the field This episode also includes a brief audience Q&A from the live session — a first in Tales of the Tribunal history. 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:31 Live Interview Begins – ~01:37 Audience Q&A – ~27:18 Personal Interest - 33:28 Closing Notes – ~39:10 📚 Books Mentioned A Farewell to Arms – Ernest Hemingway The Killing Kind – Jane Casey 🎶 Music Mentioned Patsy Cline – Crazy → https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected]   None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

🎧 Podcast Feed Caption (Episode Description) Double Feature Week – Tales of the Tribunal: AtlAS Conference Special + Live with Ann Ryan Robertson We’re doing something new — and a little historic — for Tales of the Tribunal. This week features two special episodes recorded during the Atlanta International Arbitration Society (AtlAS) Annual Conference. Episode 1: The AtlAS Conference Compilation Join Chris as he takes listeners inside the 14th Annual AtlAS Conference in Atlanta, Georgia — with voices from across the arbitration world discussing technology, AI, diversity, and what makes Atlanta a growing global hub for dispute resolution. Featuring: Leah Wilson – Miles Mediation & Arbitration Abbey Hawthorne – ICC Nancy Thevenin, Isabel Fernández de la Cuesta, Wheaton Webb and  Christoph Seifarth, Glenn Hendrix, Sebastian Feiler, and others The second episode with Ann Ryan will drop over the weekend! Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected]   None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

Prof. Joongi Kim, Yonsei University From Seoul to The Hague, from the classroom to the tribunal — this week’s guest has seen it all. We sit down with Dr. Joongi Kim, Professor of Law at Yonsei University and a leading figure in the development of arbitration across Asia and beyond. In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Kim shares: His journey from studying in the U.S. to shaping Korea’s arbitration landscape What “K-Arbitration” means and why the world should take notice His perspective on transparency, legitimacy, and reform in ISDS Reflections on mentorship, teaching, and lessons learned from his students Why diversity of thought — not just geography — is essential for the next era of arbitration 🎙️ Joined by host Chris Campbell and intern Lidia, this episode explores the intersection of culture, reform, and community in international dispute resolution. 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:38 Interview Begins – ~02:10 Personal Shift-- 00:50:20 Closing Notes – ~00:59:23 📚 Books Mentioned The Analects of Confucius → Amazon Modern Korean History: The 19th Century → Amazon Gertrude Stein: Writings 1903–1932 → Amazon 🎶 Music Mentioned K-Pop Demon Hunters Theme → YouTube Billie Holiday – Blue Moon → YouTube Chopin – Nocturne Op.9 No.2 → YouTube   Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected]   None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

From orbit to arbitration—this week we’re talking with Laura Yvonne Zielinski, co-founder of the Space Arbitration Association. Laura is part of a new generation of arbitration professionals redefining what the field can be—linking law, technology, developing a brand, and even outer space. From Germany to France to Mexico, her journey is as international as it gets. In this episode, Laura and I talk about: How she discovered her passion for space law and arbitration What inspired the founding of the Space Arbitration Association How Technology, and AI are changing the way disputes are resolved The importance of curiosity and interdisciplinary thinking in arbitration What it means to build a career across borders (and maybe across planets!) 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:36 Interview Begins – ~02:22 Personal Interest  – ~42:25 Closing Notes – ~54:20 📚 Books Mentioned Space Law: A Treatise – Stephan Hobe The Law of Outer Space: An Experience in Contemporary Law-Making – Tanja L. Masson-Zwaan & Mahulena Hofmann 🎶 Music Mentioned Coldplay – Sky Full of Stars → YouTube Daft Punk – Contact → YouTube Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected]   None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

🎧 Podcast Feed Caption (Episode Description – Gustavo Moser) From Brazil to Geneva to London—Dr. Gustavo Moser has seen international arbitration from every angle. This week on Tales of the Tribunal, we sit down with Gustavo to talk about his unique path through roles at WIPO, the LCIA, and now LexisNexis, and the lessons he’s learned as a judge, counsel, academic, and arbitrator. In this conversation, Gustavo shares: Why IP disputes stand apart in international arbitration The role of AI and legal tech in reshaping how cases are managed Why contract standardization may be the quiet revolution in arbitration Reflections on a career that spans academia, institutions, and practice The mentors and colleagues who shaped his journey And this episode has something new—our intern Lidia joins the discussion to add her perspective and questions. 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:00:35 Interview Begins – ~00:03:06 Closing Notes – ~01:00:02 📚 Books Mentioned The Trial – Franz Kafka → Amazon Dispute Settlement in the World Trade Organization – Gabrielle Marceau (and others) → Amazon The Concept of Law – H.L.A. Hart → Amazon 🎶 Music Mentioned Chico Buarque – Construção → YouTube Tom Jobim – Águas de Março → YouTube Caetano Veloso – Sozinho → YouTube 🙌 Shout-outs WIPO Arbitration & Mediation Centre LCIA LexisNexis Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected]   None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

Welcome back to Season 7 of Tales of the Tribunal! After a short August break, we’re back with another global voice shaping the practice of international arbitration: Kevin Nash, Director General of the London Court of International Arbitration (LCIA). Kevin’s career spans Canada, Asia, and now London, where he’s helping lead one of the world’s most prominent arbitral institutions into a new era. In this episode, Kevin shares: His journey from Western Canada to Singapore and now London Lessons from team sports that apply directly to leadership in arbitration The LCIA’s priorities around AI, diversity, and potential rule changes Why transparency in institutional data matters—and what LCIA is doing about it Advice for students and young practitioners navigating their careers Plus, a few book and music recommendations you might not expect 🎶📚 And this episode is extra special—our intern Lidia joins the conversation to add her own perspective and questions. 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:33 Interview Begins – ~03:04 Person Interest - 51:00 Closing Notes – ~1:03:49 📚 Books Mentioned The Road – Cormac McCarthy → Amazon Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas – Hunter S. Thompson → Amazon Blindness – José Saramago → Amazon 🎶 Music Mentioned The Tragically Hip – YouTube K-Pop Mix – YouTube 🙌 Shout-Outs Patricia Shaughnessy (LLM mentor) - 51:20 Adriana Uson, Shweta Biduri & Michelle Sonnen (SIAC colleagues) Nadia Smahi (friend of the show & connector)   Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected]   None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

This week we travel (virtually) to Mexico City for a powerful conversation with arbitrator, law firm founder, entrepreneur, wine enthusiast—and CIArb North America Chair—Cecilia Flores Rueda! 🎙️ In this episode, Cecilia shares: Her early legal journey, how she discovered arbitration by accident, and helped build Canaco’s ADR center from the ground up What it means to be a woman in arbitration and the importance of just doing it—even when the doors don’t open easily Tips for young lawyers: building a niche, gaining real-world experience, and not being afraid to network boldly Reflections on her entrepreneurial ventures, including Real Hearing, which provides AI-powered transcription services And her newest challenge? Studying to become a certified sommelier 🍷 Whether you’re an aspiring practitioner, an established arbitrator, or just here for good storytelling—this is one not to miss. 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:32 Interview Begins – 03:20 Closing Notes – 26:22 📚 Books Mentioned Arbitration texts by Gary Born, Martin Hunter, and Manuel Gallardo (Note: no specific titles provided, but likely references include Born’s International Commercial Arbitration and Redfern & Hunter.) Wine & classical music books (general reference; no specific titles cited) 🎶 Music Mentioned 🎼 Amazon Prime’s “Concentration Playlist” (Classical music for focused work) 🎧 Listen here 🎧 Platinum Pop Playlist (Workout/fun) 🎧 Listen here 🎻 Summer concert season of the Minari Orchestra (Mexico) (Live performances) 🎻 Local event link – search “Orquesta Minería” 🔗 After the Show  Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/ Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com Feedback, comments or submissions: [email protected] None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind. No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point. All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer. All rights reserved.

S7E2 – Dr. Emilia Onyema Welcome back to Season 7 of Tales of the Tribunal! We’re thrilled to bring you another powerful conversation in this week’s episode. Our guest is the incomparable Dr. Emilia Onyema, professor at SOAS University of London, international arbitrator, and global thought leader on justice, inclusion, and reform in international dispute resolution. 🎙️ In this episode, Emilia shares: Her personal journey from Nigeria to the UK, and how her father’s advice changed her career Why Africanization of arbitration matters—and what it should (and shouldn’t) mean A clear-eyed look at inclusion, diversity, and who gets to sit at the arbitral table The evolving roles of arbitrators in the age of AI, ESG, and social accountability Her active research on African women arbitrators and third-party participation in ISDS Reflections on boundaries, solitude, mentorship—and walking through life with purpose 🕒 Timestamps Opening Notes – 00:32 Interview Begins – 03:31 Personal Interest Segment – 40:25 Closing Notes – 54:25 📚 Books Mentioned People Fuel: Fill Your Tank for Life, Love, and Leadership by Dr. John Townsend 📖 Amazon Link 🎶 Music Mentioned Christian Radio: Emilia listens to uplifting Christian programming 🎧 K-LOVE (Popular Christian Radio Stream) Artists of the 80s: 🎶 Michael Jackson – “Rock With You” 🎶 Diana Ross – “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” 🎶 Luther Vandross – “Never Too Much”     Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/   Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com   For Feedback, comments or submissions contact [email protected] None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind.  No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point.  All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer.  All rights reserved.

Welcome back to Tales of the Tribunal – Season 7 is here! After a bit of a break, we’re thrilled to be back with a new season of global stories, personal journeys, and bold conversations from the world of international law and dispute resolution. Thanks for sticking with us! We’re kicking off this season with a long-overdue conversation with none other than Tafadzwa “Tafi” Pasipanodya, Partner at Foley Hoag LLP in Washington, D.C., and a fierce advocate for sovereign states in high-stakes international disputes. In this powerful and wide-ranging discussion, Tafi shares her journey from Harare to Princeton to NYU Law, and how her passion for international justice and post-conflict reconstruction led her to represent states at the ICJ, in investor-state arbitrations, and beyond. She also dives deep into: How she manages the balance between technical complexity and compelling storytelling in arbitration The legitimacy crisis in ISDS and what true diversity means in global adjudication Her work with the ICC Court of Arbitration, the African Society of International Law, and an upcoming book on Africa and the Law of the Sea Plus: surf lessons, parenting in the tech age, and dancing to Afrobeats in Lisbon 🌍🎶 ⏱️ Timestamps: Opening Notes: 00:00:36 Interview Begins: ~00:02:30 Closing Notes: ~00:59:20 📚 Books Mentioned: The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness – Jonathan Haidt ➤ Link 🎶 Music & Genres Mentioned: Afrobeats – 🎧 Essence by Wizkid ft. Tems A defining track in the modern Afrobeats movement. Salsa – 💃 Vivir Mi Vida by Marc Anthony A modern salsa classic with broad appeal and great energy. Classical Music – 🎻 Cello Suite No. 1 in G Major – J.S. Bach (Yo-Yo Ma) An iconic cello performance by one of the most famous cellists. 🔗 After the Show  Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/40833847/admin/ Check out our website: TalesOfTheTribunal.com Feedback, comments or submissions: [email protected] None of the views shared today or any episode of Tales of the Tribunal is presented as legal advice nor advice of any kind. No compensation was provided to any organization or party for their inclusion on the show nor do any of the statements made represent any particular organization, legal position or view point. All interviewees or organizations included appear on an arms-length basis and their appearance should not be construed as any bias or preferred affiliation with the host or host’s employer. All rights reserved.

Show Notes: Welcome back to another edition of Tales of the Tribunal! This week, we bring you an exciting deep dive into the first-ever AtlAS Pre-Moot, a premier event in the Southeast U.S. designed to sharpen the skills of aspiring arbitration advocates before the Vis Moots in Vienna and Hong Kong. Hosted in Atlanta, Georgia, this inaugural Pre-Moot featured teams from: 🏛️ University of South Carolina School of Law 🏛️ University of Georgia School of Law 🏛️ Campbell University School of Law 🏛️ Emory University School of Law The competition brought intensity, brilliance, and camaraderie — setting the tone for what may become a major annual tradition in the arbitration calendar. 🏆 Results Recap: 🥇 Champion: University of Georgia (UGA) 🥈 Runner-Up: Campbell Law 🥉 Third Place: University of South Carolina Tune in as we share highlights, behind-the-scenes moments, and exclusive interviews with team members, coaches, and organizers who made this event a huge success.   Time Stamps: University of South Carolina -1:30  University of Georgia - 5:33 Zach Torres-Fowler, Troutman Pepper - 10:00 Emory - 11:55 Campbell - 15:23 Closing Notes - 19:50