Ep.133 Real Conversations → Inside Credit: Rates, CLOs, and the Next Phase of the Cycle w/ Ross Burnaman

***This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on December 17, 2025***Join Hedgeye Founder and CEO Keith McCullough for a new Real Conversation with Ross Burnaman, Director at Eldridge Capital Management, this Wednesday, December 17 at 11:00am ET on HedgeyeTV.The conversation will focus on how credit markets work today and where risks and opportunities are emerging. Keith and Ross will examine the impact of interest rates, macro conditions, and industry trends on credit performance, including Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs), Senior Secured Loans, and Business Development Companies (BDCs).The discussion will break down credit risk in clear terms, covering defaults, recent stress cases, and what they signal for the broader credit cycle. The webcast will also explain CLOs in plain English, including how they are structured, why they have historically held up, and how investors should think about CLO bonds and ETFs versus traditional bond funds.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, Ryan sits down with Hedgeye Asset Management Portfolio Manager R. Patrick Kent (aka RPK) to discuss the ins and outs of what it means to be a portfolio manager.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Protect the Pile is a no-nonsense investment show where we cut through the market noise with a panel of seasoned practitioners who've been playing the game every single day for years—not theorists, but real money managers with skin in the game. Every episode, we bring together battle-tested investors to dissect the current landscape, debate the opportunities and risks, and help you navigate the markets with the Hedgeye framework. It's not Old Wall media, it is real-world experience, focused on one goal: protecting and growing your pile.In this episode, RPK & Sam discuss what they call "Phase Two of AI" and are joined by Hedgeye Risk Management Energy Sector Head Fernando Valle for an in-depth discussion on his sector and the recent bullish moves in natural gas.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, Ryan digs into the economic policies of the Trump and Biden administrations and how they have - and haven't - impacted U.S. inflation.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

**This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on May 12, 2020**Join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough and Epsilon Theory CIO Ben Hunt for a pro-to-pro investing discussion about the current market environment.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksTop Stock PicksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Get the BEST DEALS we offer ALL YEAR! CLICK HERE to access our Cyber November sale.***This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on November 19, 2025***Hedgeye Founder and CEO Keith McCullough hosts another must-watch episode of “Real Conversations” featuring bestselling author and iconoclastic macro strategist Jim Rickards.Over the past decade, these dynamic exchanges between McCullough and Rickards have become audience favorites for good reason — no one blends sharp, no-BS analysis and straight talk quite like this duo.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

For more information, visit hedgeyeam.comProtect the Pile is a no-nonsense investment show where we cut through the market noise with a panel of seasoned practitioners who've been playing the game every single day for years—not theorists, but real money managers with skin in the game. Every episode, we bring together battle-tested investors to dissect the current landscape, debate the opportunities and risks, and help you navigate the markets with the Hedgeye framework. It's not Old Wall media, it is real-world experience, focused on one goal: protecting and growing your pile.In this episode, RPK & Sam are joined by David Salem and Hedgeye Risk Management Restaurants analyst Bennett Cheer to discuss the recent two-day panic and what might be under the surface of the move.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Wall Street consensus is behind the curve—again. Markets are pivoting fast from Stagflation to Goldilocks. If you're not positioned for the shift, you're already at risk of missing the most bullish Macro setup since 2020. In this special 45-minute webcast, Hedgeye CEO (and former hedge fund manager) Keith McCullough reveals a high-conviction allocation for each major asset class heading into year-end and early 2026—plus the strategy behind each position. You’ll also discover: ✅ The economic forces driving the Stagflation to Goldilocks shift ✅ Why most investors will miss the move—again ✅ The process that’s nailed every major crash since 2008 ✅ Keith’s top allocation in 7 major asset classes ✅ How to position before the market prices in the Macro shift This is the same repeatable, data-driven process Hedgeye subscribers have used to stay ahead of Wall Street for 17 years. Don’t follow consensus. Front-run it. Get the BEST DEALS we offer ALL YEAR! CLICK HERE to access our Cyber November sale.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

"Flirting with All-Time Highs: AI Spending, Small Cap Hope, and Things That Go Bump in the Night"Welcome to the inaugural episode of Protect the Pile, the investment show where real money managers talk real markets.With the S&P 500 and Nasdaq flirting with all-time highs (up 16% and 23% YTD respectively), the Hedgeye Asset Management team breaks down what's working, what's worrying, and what's worth watching as we head into year-end.What We Cover:Market Landscape: Why global markets are outperforming on a constant currency basis, and what tight high-yield spreads really tell usAI's Drunken Sailor Spending: Hundreds of billions flowing into 2026. Is this sustainable or circular financing in disguise?Small Caps' Long-Awaited Moment?: Could Russell 2000 finally break out and benefit from AI infrastructure spending?Credit Market Surprises: What Jamie Dimon's "cockroaches" comment reveals about hidden risksVolatility Reality Check: Why the VIX settling into the "investable bucket" matters for positioningPlus, we share formative investment lessons from 30+ years of combined experience, including a near-firing story from December 2008 and why the best investors admit their biggest mistakes.Quick Hits:New updates made to our volatility of volatility calculations within the Capital Allocation systematic approachReal-time data points on AI infrastructure demand (spoiler: AWS is maintaining prices on 3-generation-old chips)Protect the Pile is a no-nonsense investment show where we cut through the market noise with a panel of seasoned practitioners who've been playing the game every single day for years—not theorists, but real money managers with skin in the game. Every episode, we bring together battle-tested investors to dissect the current landscape, debate the opportunities and risks, and help you navigate the markets with the Hedgeye framework. It's not Old Wall media, it is real-world experience, focused on one goal: protecting and growing your pile.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, Ryan explains what government shutdowns are, why they happen, how they affect (and don't affect) the economy, and what exactly is going on with the 2025 edition of a shutdown.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Get an investing edge on the enormous amount of money flowing into options every day, what they’re signaling, and the structural and behavioral trends driving markets higher or lower. The Market Situation Report™ includes access to a daily newsletter and weekly webcast featuring analysis of the Tier 1 Alpha team's proprietary models. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.