The Problem with “Executive Presence”

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the idea of “executive presence”—what it is and is NOT, why it can be harmful, and how to either adopt or navigate around it in order to move forward in your career. 00:00 Intro 02:05 The problem with the idea of “executive presence”  07:27 The chicken or egg problem 10:31 Game: Executive Presence or Executive Privilege? 16:59 Listener email about executive presence 20:09 Amanda Goetz’s KUBA framework 22:53 How to handle it if someone tells you that you don’t have executive presence This episode was sponsored by Croissant. Croissant handles the sourcing, bookings, and vendors for your distributed team all in one place. Try Croissant now and they'll host lunch for you and your team in a Croissant space. Go to: getcroissant.com/PMLE. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about the habits they’ve observed in the most effective and successful leaders they know, and how to incorporate them into your own work life. (And let’s just say a few of them are a bit controversial.) 00:00 Intro 02:31 Habit #1  08:50 Habit #2  12:38 Habit #3  17:59 Habit #4  21:18 Habit #5  24:32 Habit #6 This episode was sponsored by Croissant. Croissant handles the sourcing, bookings, and vendors for your distributed team all in one place. Try Croissant now and they'll host lunch for you and your team in a Croissant space. Go to: getcroissant.com/PMLE. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle bring you another round of a fan favorite: Am I The A******? Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle react to some of the wildest, work-related AITA posts on Reddit, and weigh in with their professional advice.  00:00 Intro 00:25 Scenario 1 | Clapping back at a coworker 06:41 Scenario 2 | Office desk assignment 12:44 Scenario 3 | Job referral 18:27 Scenario 4 | Covering my friend’s maternity leave Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the more subtle (but incredibly important) forms of networking that you might not be thinking about. Whether it’s honing your personal brand or expanding your weak ties, Kaila and Kyle share some excellent tips on the more unexpected ways to network.  00:00 Intro 00:39 Kaila’s experience with back-channeling  04:26 Peer-to-peer networking 10:56 Building up weak ties 14:16 Building your personal brand 18:42 Ways to grow your personal brand (beyond posting on LinkedIn) 20:17 The networking you do with your own boss Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this special bonus episode, Kaila and Kyle tape their very first live episode at Verizon HQ in Basking Ridge, New Jersey. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle share what they learned from their own early career experiences with Verizon’s intern class (aka VTerns), as well as hear professional insights and advice from Christina Schelling, Verizon’s own SVP of Human Resources (whose early career experiences include working for the CIA). 00:00 Intro 03:08 Kaila’s internship experience at Goldman Sachs 04:19 Kyle’s first career experiences 08:57 On figuring out what you want to do with your career 11:41 The 30-60-90 Framework 16:41 On learning from your bosses 17:47 Using naivete to your advantage 19:59 SVP of Human Resources, Christina Schelling 22:02 Christina’s experience at the CIA 26:41 The unexpected skills that are becoming more valuable today 30:25 The areas that young professionals should focus on developing in the first 5 years 35:33 The cost of perfectionism in your career 39:37 The questions young professionals should ask in interviews This episode was sponsored by Verizon. Visit mycareer.verizon.com to apply to open roles and learn more about working at Verizon today. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss why perfectionism is actually a negative at work (and in life), and how to overcome it. And as a self-proclaimed recovering perfectionist, Kaila offers some excellent tactics and tips.  00:00 Intro 01:48 The misconception about perfectionism 06:16 The impacts of perfectionism 14:38 On whether we overrate intelligence 16:22 Measuring the delta between time and output 19:31 100 rejections in 100 days Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into and debate the most overrated and underrated work perks, and how to make the most of the ones you’re probably overlooking. Summer Fridays? Education credits? Unlimited PTO? You might be surprised by some of their controversial takes.  00:00 Intro 00:14 Reviewing the Morning Brew company party 05:09 Kaila’s party strength vs. Kyle’s party strength 06:53 Are company parties a good work perk? 08:42 Underrated work perk #1  10:28 Underrated work perk #2  11:37 Underrated work perk #3  14:15 Underrated work perk #4  15:04 Underrated work perk #5  16:18 Overrated work perk #1  18:35 Overrated work perk #2  21:57 Overrated work perk #3  24:45 Overrated work perk #4 Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle list the most annoying and the most appreciated qualities in a coworker. Plus, how to make the most of those good qualities and navigate the grating ones.  00:00 Intro 01:08 Coworker pet peeve #1  06:02 Coworker pet peeve #2 10:15 Coworker pet peeve #3  12:50 Coworker pet peeve #4  15:23 Coworker green flag #1 19:19 Coworker green flag #2  21:00 Coworker green flag #3  23:23 Coworker green flag #4 Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss how AI is starting to impact how we communicate with one another at work. There are both obvious and subtle ways in which the technology is affecting how we speak, and Kaila and Kyle have some strong feelings about it. 00:00 Intro 00:18 The problem 04:04 How we got here 09:41 The inciting concern about how we talk to chatbots  13:05 Another communication heuristic that has been altered by AI 15:56 How using AI can be corrosive to work relationships 21:11 The linguistic tip-offs that signal something might have been written by AI 23:35 Another way that AI is changing how we speak Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the unexpected ways in which work impacts our mental and physical health, and provide some tactics for how to avoid some of these health risks whether you work remotely or in an office.  00:00 Intro 02:22 Remote work and unhappiness 09:28 Kaila’s hot take on remote work 11:27 Tactics to avoid the pitfalls of remote work 16:00 The impact of work on our physical health 18:55 The thing impacting our health more than sitting all day 22:08 Why going into the office (vs working remotely) might be healthier overall 24:13 Middle Manager-itis 29:54 Per My Last Policy Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!