You Talked to Workers for This Labor Research... Right? (with Sophie Song), 2025.11.17

Last month, Senate Democrats warned that "Automation Could Destroy Nearly 100 Million U.S Jobs in a Decade." Ironically, they used ChatGPT to come to that conclusion. DAIR Research Associate Sophie Song joins us to unpack the issues when self-professed worker advocates use chatbots for "research."Sophie Song is a researcher, organizer, and advocate working at the intersection of tech and social justice. They’re a research associate at DAIR, where they're working with Alex on building the Luddite Lab Resource Hub.References:Senate report: AI and Automation Could Destroy Nearly 100 Million U.S Jobs in a DecadeSenator Sanders' AI Report Ignores the Data on AI and InequalityAlso referenced:MAIHT3k Episode 25: An LLM Says LLMs Can Do Your JobHumlum paper: Large Language Models, Small Labor Market EffectsEmily's blog post: Scholarship should be open, inclusive and slowFresh AI Hell:Tech companies compelling vibe codingarXiv is overwhelmed by LLM slop'Godfather of AI' says tech giants can't profit from their astronomical investments unless human labor is replacedIf you want to satiate AI’s hunger for power, Google suggests going to spaceAI pioneers claim human-level general intelligence is already hereGen AI campaign against ranked choice votingChaser: Workplace AI Implementation BingoCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

It's been six months since our last all-Hell episode! In honor of Halloween season, we take a long journey into the very scary Fresh AI Hell mines. Topics include terrifying uses of AI in education, scientific research, and politics — plus, some delicious palate cleansers along the way.AI bubble: bigger than dot-com bust?No one wants to pay for ChatGPTMeta lays off 600 from AI unitAI data centers: an even bigger disaster than we thoughtPublic universities anticipate data center-driven power outagesChaser: Deloitte has to pay back Albanese government after using AI in report"AI" schools are "dead classrooms"Fake sources in "ethical AI" education reportParents letting kids play with AIStartup sells 'synthetic influencers'AI-powered textbooks fail to make the gradeChaser: "High-reliability" AI slopNature offers "AI-powered research assistant"AI bots wrote all papers at this conference"AI" reviewing at AAAIAI medical tools downplay symptoms in women and POCTherapists are secretly using ChatGPTChaser: Microsoft blocks Israel's use of its technologyGerman initiative uses "AI" for voter educationPolice gunshot detection mics will listen for human voicesSF's AI chatbot for RV dwellersCuomo campaign posts racist AI slopDHS Ordered OpenAI To Share User DataChaser: LA County moves to limit license plate trackingA new form of eugenics"AI Superintelligence" prohibition letterEmad Mostaque's LLM blurbsPrizes must recognize machine contributions to discoveryChaser: The hot new trend in marketing: hating on AICheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

So-called AI tools are increasingly infiltrating newsrooms, particularly when it comes to data analysis. DAIR writer-in-residence Decca Muldowney joins us to discuss the need for journalists to distinguish between "AI" and reliable, verifiable research methods.Decca Muldowney is a journalist and writer who was our fact checker for The AI Con. She's also a writer-in-residence and web editor at the Distributed AI Research Institute.References:An early AI pioneer shares how the "vibe coding" revolution could reshape data journalismAmerica's top companies keep talking about AI — but can't explain the upsidesAnalysis: 96.2% of Climate News Stories Don't Cover Animal Agriculture as a Pollution SourceFresh AI Hell:Teen Sues Maker of Fake-Nude SoftwareChatGPT's Hail Mary: Chatbots You Can FuckGitLaw announces "Vibe Lawyering"Salesforce Offers Its Services to Boost Trump’s Immigration ForceTowns are saying no to AI data centers. One got sued over it.Rent a Cyber Friend will pay you to talk to strangers onlineThe Wire's David Simon is over itCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

Powerful AI boosters claim to love science fiction novels, but why do they always seem to take the wrong lessons from them? Reporter and writer Reo Eveleth joins us to discuss the ways tech leaders misuse storytelling, and how we can avoid their visions to imagine better futures.Reo Eveleth is a reporter, writer, and co-founder of COYOTE Media Collective. They created the hit independent show Flash Forward, which they also turned into a book of the same name. Reo’s work has been nominated for a Peabody, an Emmy, and an Eisner Award.References:Tech Billionaires Need to Stop Trying to Make the Science Fiction They Grew Up on RealHow New Science Fiction Could Help Us Improve AIAlso Referenced:Statement from the listed authors of Stochastic Parrots on the “AI pause” letterFresh AI Hell:Stop Worrying About AI’s Return on InvestmentThe most radical act of feminism? Using AILeader of Albania Pelted With Trash for Appointing AI-Powered Minister to CabinetThe Human Cost of Every ChatGPT Query: Inside the Cobalt Mines That Power AIAltman on "AGI" and quantum gravityOK Go - Impulse PurchaseCorrection: We misstated Lee Ostertag's name during the livestream for this episode. We apologize for the error!Check out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

It's Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000's third birthday! To celebrate, Emily and Alex respond to listener questions about the show, and reflect on the past and future of AI hype. Topics range from how to talk to your kids about LLMs, to what the MAIHT3k birthday cake looks like.Artifacts referenced:AI and the Everything in the Whole Wide World BenchmarkData and its (dis)contentsStochastic Parrots DayDr. Casey Fiesler on TikTokDr. Nicole Holliday on TikTokAlex and Emily’s media appearances about The AI ConEmily and Alex on The Data Fix with Dr. Mél HoganEmily’s interview with Dr. Carl RhodesStinking Rich: The Four Myths of the Good BillionaireOctober 21st event for The AI ConFAccT AI Workers’ Inquiry PanelEmily’s presentation at UNESCO Digital Learning Week — Paper version on pp.41-45 hereA Teen Was Suicidal. ChatGPT Was the Friend He Confided In.Fresh AI Hell:Meet the Robot Using AI to Ink Your Next TattooMedicare Will Start Paying AI Companies a Share of Any Claims They Automatically RejectTaco Bell AI drive-throughCan AI doulas improve maternal health?Countries are struggling to meet the rising energy demands of data centersBluesky post about Business InsiderOpenAI has reportedly misjudged its cash burn by $80 billionCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

Talking to chatbots can have serious mental health consequences — fueling delusions and leading users away from consensus reality. Futurism writer Maggie Harrison Dupré joins us to unpack the hype around AI therapists, based on her groundbreaking reporting on "AI psychosis."Maggie Harrison Dupré is an award-winning tech journalist at Futurism who’s reported extensively on the rise of AI as a cultural and business force shaping media, information, humans, and our real and digital lives.References:How AI Is Expanding The Mental Health MarketHe Had Dangerous Delusions. ChatGPT Admitted It Made Them Worse.OpenAI: What we're optimizing ChatGPT forAlso referenced:Gov Pritzker Signs Legislation Prohibiting AI Therapy in IllinoisPeople Are Becoming Obsessed with ChatGPT and Spiraling Into Severe DelusionsStanford: New study warns of risks in AI mental health toolsFresh AI Hell:Bluesky post about DEI by chatbotHow AI is being used by police departments to help draft reportsPolitico's recent AI experiments shouldn’t be subject to newsroom editorial standards, its editors testifyUK Asks People to Delete Emails In Order to Save Water During DroughtSam Altman says 'yes,' AI is in a bubbleGoogle's AI pointed him to a customer service number. It was a scam.Mastodon post about Dieter Roth's LiteraturwürsteCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

Trump’s “AI Action Plan” is his latest attempt to turn AI hype into official national policy. Kate Brennan and Sarah Myers West, of the AI Now Institute, join us to dig through this pile of deregulatory gifts to Big Tech.Dr. Sarah Myers West is co-executive director of the AI Now Institute, and a former senior advisor on AI for the FTC.Dr. Kate Brennan is associate director of the AI Now Institute, where she spearheads their policy work, informed by a doctorate in law and years of experience in the tech industry.References:Winning the Race: America’s AI Action PlanAlso referenced:People’s AI Action PlanFresh AI Hell:Medical Pros Risk Malpractice Suits by Avoiding AI InnovationGoogle search’s next cash cowAI Is Coming for the Consultants. Inside McKinsey, ‘This Is Existential.’The rise of AI tools that write about you when you dieAmazon’s Alexa Fund Invests in ‘Netflix of AI’ Start-Up Fable, Which Launches Showrunner: A Tool for User-Directed TV ShowsIn federal lawsuit, students allege Lawrence school district’s AI surveillance tool violates their rightsCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

After many months of making fun of the term "vibe coding," Emily and Alex tackle the LLMs-as-coders fad head-on, with help from security researcher Susanna Cox. From one person's screed that proclaims everyone not on the vibe-coding bandwagon to be crazy, to the grandiose claim that LLMs could be the "opposable thumb" of the entire world of computing. It's big yikes, all around.Susanna Cox is a consulting AI security researcher and a member of the core author team at OWASP AI Exchange.References:My AI Skeptic Friends Are All NutsLLMs: the opposable thumb of computingA disastrous day in the life of a vibe coderAlso referenced:Signal president Meredith Whittaker on the fundamental security problem with agentic AIThe "S" in MCP stands for securityOur Opinions Are Correct: The Turing Test is BullshitAI Hell:Sam Altman: The (gentle) singularity is already hereWhat do the boosters think reading is, anyway?Meta's climate model made up fake CO2 removal ideasOngoing lawsuit means all your ChatGPT conversations will be saved"Dance like you're part of the training set"Some Guy tries to mansplain Signal to…Signal's presidentWSJ headline claims ChatGPT "self-reflection", gets dunkedCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

The chatbot boosters are looking for educators to play brand ambassador for more intrusion of so-called "AI" into the classroom. From the American Federation of Teachers' new partnership with OpenAI and Microsoft for a "national academy for AI instruction" to yet more articles extolling the alleged time-saving and future-proofing virtues of LLM-powered ed tech, the hype can feel relentless. Charles Logan joins Alex and Emily for a critical look at the latest propaganda for "AI" in the classroom.Charles Logan is a former English teacher and current PhD candidate in Learning Sciences at Northwestern University.References:Welcome to Campus. Here’s Your ChatGPT.AI isn’t replacing student writing – but it is reshaping itAFT to Launch National Academy for AI Instruction with Microsoft, OpenAI, Anthropic and United Federation of Teachers Also referenced:Tressie McMillan Cottom on "predatory inclusion"Daniel Greene's "The Access Doctrine"The Group Chats that Changed AmericaFresh AI Hell:Missouri AG investigating why chatbots don’t like TrumpGig workers calling ICE on other undocumented gig workersTech billionaire Trump adviser Marc Andreessen says universities will ‘pay the price’ for DEIUSF makes a PTSD detector...trained on childrenPeople falling in love with Replika chatbotsElon Musk thirsting over xAI anime constructCheck out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.

It's finally here! The AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech's Hype and Create the Future We Want hit the shelves in May. In this special bonus episode, Alex and Emily speak to tech journalist Vauhini Vara at one of the book's online launch events, where they covered the misleading nature of the term "artificial intelligence," why the use of tools like ChatGPT will only ever cheapen human labor and enrich the already powerful, and how people can fight the narrative that these technologies are inevitable.Vauhini Vara is a technology reporter and writer. Her journalism has been honored by the Asian American Journalists Association, the International Center for Journalists, the McGraw Center for Business Journalism, and others. Her latest book is Searches: Selfhood in the Digital Age, a work of journalism and memoir about how big technology companies are exploiting human communication — and how we’re complicit in this.ReferencesEveryone is cheating their way through college (with ChatGPT)The Last Human Job: The Work of Connecting in a Disconnected World by Allison PughTe Hiku MediaResisting AI: An Anti-fascist Approach to Artificial Intelligence by Dan McQuillanRefusing Generative AI in Writing StudiesPennsylvania's SEIU Local 668 wins a victory against AIElon Musk's xAI is polluting Black Memphis residentsPossible Futures: An Internet for Our EldersBetter Images of AIThe Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)Check out future streams on Twitch. Meanwhile, send us any AI Hell you see.Our book, 'The AI Con,' is out now! Get your copy now.Subscribe to our newsletter via Buttondown. Follow us!Emily Bluesky: emilymbender.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@EmilyMBender Alex Bluesky: alexhanna.bsky.social Mastodon: dair-community.social/@alex Twitter: @alexhanna Music by Toby Menon.Artwork by Naomi Pleasure-Park. Production by Ozzy Llinas Goodman.