Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — 'Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple' — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.The death of millennial feminism.  A bad marriage. Absolutely none of our business. These are just some of the Internet’s takes on the memoir Adult Braces by millennial icon Lindy West. And of course Mia — who has met and interviewed Lindy and found her delightful and blisteringly smart — has a few opinions of her own.  Joined on this subscriber episode by Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright, Mia asks and answers some questions about the most talked-about memoir of the moment. Questions like: If you spill all the details of your polyamorous throuple in a series of personal essays, can you actually argue that your relationship is not 'for public audit'? And: Do we just find it impossible to believe a woman can be happy in a non-monogamous relationship? And: When someone tells you they really, really don’t want to be monogamous, shouldn’t you just believe them?  Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code ends April 1st.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to Lindy West on No Filter: Lindy West Isn't Afraid to Take Up Space Listen to our latest episode: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For Listen: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My! Listen: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip Listen: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback Listen: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco Listen: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Author Lindy West thought she had a 'perfect' marriage. Then her husband asked to open it. Lindy West: "I was in a relationship with a guy who was embarrassed to be seen with me in public." Lindy West: "My abortion was simple with no pain. We need to hear these stories." He set up a fake profile of her deceased father, just to mess with her. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Question: Why was the latest season of The Bachelorette US cancelled days before release, costing more than US$30 million? Well, it’s got something to do with stunt casting and a very disturbing video leak…  Also, millennial feminist icon Lindy West has written a memoir about being in a happily married throuple. The problem is, the Internet has seen her unvarnished honesty and unilaterally decided her book is a lie. Does West protest too much? Or do we have a problem believing a woman could ever be happy beyond the white picket fence? Plus, nap times, little lunch and a giant TV on wheels. Things we miss from primary school that should definitely be part of the workplace, pls. And, Chappell Roan and Coldplay kiss-cam star Kristin Cabot have some facts for us about public shaming.  Oh, and how about those Matildas? The lessons we can only learn from (almost) winning. SUBSCRIBERS:Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code. Ends 1st April. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to No Filter: Lindy West Isn't Afraid to Take Up Space. Listen to our latest episode: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For Listen: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My! Listen: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip Listen: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback Listen: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco Listen: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Author Lindy West thought she had a 'perfect' marriage. Then her husband asked to open it. Lindy West: "I was in a relationship with a guy who was embarrassed to be seen with me in public." Chappell Roan can take a stand, we apparently just need her to suffer a bit first. Kristin was at the centre of the Coldplay kiss cam video. She just shared her side of the story. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Your 'difficult' friends aren't just annoying; they are literally bad for your health. No big deal but it’s official: 'Hasslers' who create drama also accelerate your ‘biological decay’. Is it time to prune the friend tree for the sake of your longevity? Plus, Belle Burden’s divorce memoir Strangers has the internet asking if telling your 'emotional truth' is just a fancy term for fibbing. With inconsistencies surfacing, Clare wonders if we even care about facts if the story is good, while Em insists that if you’re selling your life story, the least you can do is tell the truth. So, who owns your story and… does the truth even matter any more? Meanwhile, in other business, Em presents an 'unhinged' list of rules that states men shouldn't drink matcha and women shouldn't know movie directors' names. Yes, it appears we’re all living in her Mojo Dojo Casa House now.  Oh, and, in breaking news, we’ve all been saying 'Chupa Chups' wrong. RECOMMENDATIONS Clare recommends Australian Story: Raising Richard — the moving story of a mother who’s been caring for her son for over 30 years. Holly recommend Tarte Shape Tape peach corrector for undereye dark circles. Em recommends Project Hail Mary — a "science-y" space flick starring Ryan Gosling.SUBSCRIBERS: Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code. Ends 1st April. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media What To Listen To Next:  Listen to: The Salt Path Scandal That Blew Up Listen to our latest episode: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My! Listen: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip Listen: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback Listen: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco Listen: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Listen: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  'I've been an oversharer my whole life. Finally, science says that's a good thing.' This woman's unbelievable life story was turned into a movie. Then she was accused of making it up. Looking for a good autobiography? Here are the 10 best memoirs we've ever read. 'Mate. Get your d*ck sorted.' A very honest recap of the most bizarre parts of Spare. The 6 words you've been mispronouncing your whole entire life. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa KotowiczBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — 'Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My!' — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE. Mia is deep in a nostalgia hole this week after bingeing the JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy series, Love Story. It turns out, seeing a world without DMs, TikTok trends, or the urge to live-stream your breakfast has her ready to trade her smartphone for a flip phone and some chic minimalism. Are we actually 'connected' or just... exhausted? In this episode: The 'Always On' Burnout: Mia gets real about the specific brand of fatigue that comes from being reachable 24/7. When did 'relaxing' become just another word for 'scrolling in a different room'? The Content Trap: Why are we obsessed with turning every family moment into a production for the group chat? Mia asks if it’s possible to just exist — without looking for the best lighting.Mia's Reccos The retro chocolate bar making a comeback in Mia’s pantry. The sports bra finally doing the literal heavy lifting. The memoir sparking a heated debate: is supporting your partner’s career a romantic gesture or a professional death wish? Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code ends April 1st.  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip Listen: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback Listen: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco Listen: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Listen: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Mia Freedman steps down from No Filter after 10 years. Kate Langbroek announced as new host. ‘There’s a loneliness that comes from knowing you’re too much.’ What happened when I was diagnosed with ADHD at 49. MIA FREEDMAN: 'The type of burnout I didn't realise I had.' Mia Freedman on starting a media company with her husband. This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Celebrity gossip lip-readers have changed the game. Because of them we know Timothée Chalamet hated the Oscars, King Charles says F and Prince William had no time for 'Andrew’s' apology. So is that ‘zero privacy’ development fair play? And what DID Timmy say to his sister about Kylie Jenner?  In other scurrilous gossip, we’re meant to think that Nicole Kidman has a new friends-to-lovers boyfriend, and that Keith Urban is 'reeling'. Hmmm. Plus, peptides are the new cottage cheese, in demand from both older women and teenage boys. Except, unregulated, they can be rather more dangerous than a protein-heavy snack. So what the hell is a peptide, and how worried should we be about influencers spruiking them? (Hint: Very) 'Our' Queen Mary is touring Australia and once upon a time, that would have guaranteed tabloid mayhem. These days everything is… quieter. Is that because a midlife Queen is less enticing to the attention economy than the Carrie-esque lure of the princess fairytale?  Plus, Ethan Hawke has the best advice for those suffering from unrequited love. Yes, some ageing Gen X heartthrobs are still the real deal.  SUBSCRIBERS: Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code. Ends 1st April. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback Listen: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco Listen: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Listen: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  Despite what you've read, Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner were the real Oscar winners. Timothée Chalamet losing the Oscar has nothing to do with opera. 'Michael B. Jordan is obsessed with Yerin Ha and I've got two compelling theories.' 'An uncontrolled science experiment.' The truth about the peptides trend. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation —  'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE. The biggest night in Hollywood has come and gone, and while the show itself was - dare we say - a bit of a snooze, the fashion gave us plenty to talk about. In this exclusive subscriber episode, Mia Freedman and Em Vernem dive into this year’s Oscars fashion. From Demi Moore’s bird/snake vibe to Rose Byrne’s head to toe perfection, Mia has feedback. So, did the celebs play it too safe on the red carpet? Also, while Em was focused on the outfits alone, Mia was too distracted by the bodies in them and how different the red carpet looks in 2026.   Plus, from Gwyneth Paltrow’s glittery ‘naked’ pants to Jeff Goldblum’s wife Emilie Livingston’s high-cut pantless look, they unpack the 'front flap' debate that has Mia questioning everything.  Sit back and enjoy their unfiltered thoughts about their favourite and not-so favourite Oscars looks. Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco Listen: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Listen: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  The afterparty looks saved the Oscars. Timothée Chalamet losing the Oscar has nothing to do with opera. 'As a fashion editor, these are the 8 Oscars red carpet looks I urgently need to discuss in detail.' Diet culture is back. But there's one side effect nobody is talking about. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloudBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s Oscars Day, aka Christmas for people who like celebrity gossip and frocks. Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens and Amelia Lester have a chaotic recap for you, including whether Leo stole Pedro’s moustache, the jokes that landed and the ones that flopped, and why justice was served in the Best Actor face-off.  Plus, Louis Theroux has gone Inside the Manosphere for a new Netflix documentary, and there’s a lot to unpack. Are these men dangerous, or just shoddy salesmen looking for a mark? And while we’re at it, is Louis a little outplayed in the 'everything is content' era? And, are you a 'reply only' friend? We’re looking at the friendship dynamic where one person does all the heavy lifting while the other just reacts to the blue bubbles. Is it a problem if you’re the one who replies, but never reaches out?  In other business, there is a literal culture war bubbling over whether being on The Pill decides which movie star you fancy. Elon Musk thinks it’s science, but we have some actual data (and common sense) to throw at that theory. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: What We Did Before 9am Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Listen: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  All the best looks from the 2026 Oscars red carpet. The top 14 Louis Theroux documentaries of all time. Ranked. How to lose an Oscar in 10 days. 'I've been teaching for 12 years. I've never seen boys behave like this.' 'I texted my friend to catch up in the new year. Her reply made my heart sink.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloudBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Oscars is two days away, and while experts predict with data, Mamamia Out Loud predicts with vibes. From naked afterparty guests to the high-stakes battle between Michael B. Jordan and Timothée Chalamet, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, and Em Vernem are placing their bets and asking an important industry question - will Lewis Hamilton use this as a moment for a Kim K hard launch? Plus, the "boyboss" era is over and crying at work is officially encouraged, which is lucky. Emily shares her first Mamamia cry while Holly would still rather die than leak from the eyes. Is crying now a valid form of corporate communication, or just a sign that your workplace is the problem? Also, are you treating your morning like an “Opening Shift”? The theory leans into a morning that’s all about setting up for the day. Em’s into it, with her early-morning doomscroll and home-brewed coffee under her belt. Clare has a toddler, so her morning’s are… enough said, and Holly has left that chaos era behind. But the question remains - is the snooze button your friend or your enemy?  Plus, the allure of the bald man and the happiest place on the Internet that celebrates them.  And… recommendations: Em recommends How to get to heaven from Belfast on Netflix.   Clare recommends The Death of Us by Abigail Dean Holly recommends Harry Styles. One night in Manchester on Netflix.   SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Very Surprising, Very Wonderful Twins Update Listen: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  How to recover from a massive, ugly, work cry. 'I'm a night owl who wakes up at 4:30am every day. This is how I do it.' 'I spend an hour on Instagram': 6 women share exactly what their morning routine looks like. This new Netflix show is a mix between 'Derry Girls' and 'Only Murders in the Building'. Harry Styles refuses to repeat himself. On his fourth album, that's the whole point. THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producer: Tessa KotowiczBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, your usual Friday dose of Mamamia Out Loud will drop this afternoon but for now, here's a lil' treat from us to you. Enjoy. She’s 10 days on. She’s splitting her time and her heart between home and hospital, and she wants to share her story with you, Outlouders.  Our beloved co-host Jessie Stephens gave birth to her boy-girl twins last week, earlier than hoped, and became a mum all over again. There will be so many of you who’ll relate to this story of terror-tinged joy, who will recognise the awe and exhaustion in Jessie’s voice, and who will want to send her so much love as she and her little family find their way through a new normal. Jessie’s rock, her twin sister Clare Stephens as well as Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright are asking the questions:. How much time did she get “off” before the babies came? What was the first thing that happened when they did? How is Luna? How is Luca? Can she finally eat chocolate again? And how is she staying sane and hopeful? A very special episode.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  What To Listen To Next:  Listen to our latest episode: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word' Rule' Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O Listen: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers. CLARE STEPHENS: 'I did everything to avoid a traumatic birth. Then I had one.' 'I was 3 days postpartum and holding my son. Then a nurse said 5 words that broke me.' 'I was home alone when I went into sudden labour. I'll never forget what happened 40 minutes later.' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloudBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mia is late to the party. Despite “Let Them” being (one of) her Words Of The Year last year, she is finally listening to the Mel Robbins audio book — and she has thoughts. In this episode, Mia and Amelia unpack the complicated art of female friendships.  From the 'scatterings' of marriage and kids to the isolation of running a business, is the secret to staying connected actually just... loosening your grip? But, while Mia is feeling a “massive unclenching”, Amelia is asking whether 'let them' is just a fancy way of being a passive friend? Plus, the '3-Word Rule' that might actually save your friendship. What To Listen To Next:  Listen to Mel Robbins on No Filter: Mel Robbins On The Only Life Lesson You Need To Know Listen to our latest episode: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube What to read:  The 'let them' theory has changed more than 2 million people's lives. The 'let them' theory changed 2 million people's lives. The 'who says' theory is the easy alternative. 'I tried the "Let Them Theory" on my kids... Here's what happened.' 'I asked my friends to give me a performance review. They said, "No".' THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloudBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.