WORLD EXCLUSIVE! DR DAME KATY DENISE SPEAKS OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME!

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Dame Katy Denise“A triumphant tale of transformation from a highly esteemed philanthropist, coworker, boss, and my personal hero” Lambrini Lil, AKA JK Rowling (who has, to date, sold fewer books than Dame Katy)Thank you to Joe Fattorini - he knows why! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit juliebindel.substack.com/subscribe

Those taking part in the debate were: Me. Zing Tsjeng, UK editor of Broadly (the only one to mention ‘transgender’, but just once). Very ‘queer’ identified.Eleanor Margolis, a lesbian writer, who said, ‘I honestly remember fancying girls when I was about three.’Joe Stone, writer, calls himself a ‘plain old-fashioned gay’ rather than queerAnd Matt Cook, academic, who recalls the terrible loss due to the AIDS crisis during the 1980 and beyond. Jane Garvey hosted. She did a grand job. Have a listen, and consider how the takeover of lesbian and gay culture by gender woo woo impacted. Remember, 2015, the year this episode was broadcast, was the year Stonewall added the T to the LGB, and when Tory Minister for Women, Maria Miller decided to recommend self-ID as a key reform to the 2004 Gender Recognition Act. Everything was about to change, and not for the better. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit juliebindel.substack.com/subscribe

Dig Up Your Mam, my latest podcast series. Listen to the podcast on this Substack, or the usual platforms This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit juliebindel.substack.com/subscribe

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Carole Hooven This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit juliebindel.substack.com/subscribe

I grew up in the suburbs of Baltimore, Maryland, in a fundamentalist Christian community called The Lamb of God. What began in the mid-1970s as a small group of born-again hippies who played music, prayed together, and proselytized to whoever would listen about Jesus’s unconditional love and mercy, descended into authoritarianism in the 1980s after its founder linked up with the broader charismatic renewal movement that had been sweeping the nation. The Lamb of God’s doctrine became explicit—Christianity good; Islam, feminism, secular humanism, and Marxism bad; and the rules strict—complete submission of all members to the leadership, and of all wives to their husbands.These are the words of Ben Appel, a writer based in New York whose forthcoming memoir, CIS WHITE GAY, will be published in 2023.Ben and I met up in NYC, on the Lower East Side in May, and spent a couple of hours engaged in a fascinating discussion about his life, work, and visions of the future. Luckily for you, I have the audio of our conversation. As we sat in the 14th floor lobby of an on-trend hotel, Ben spoke of leaving the religious cult as a child, and, realising he was gay, becoming fixated on prayer as a way to help him come to terms with his life. Drugs and alcohol became a big part of his life whilst still in his teens and suffered mental ill health as a result. We talk about his introduction to the gay scene, trauma, and recovery.Aged 28, Ben falls in love and gets involved in the campaign for equal marriage, and, in 2014, gets married. Then Ben goes back to college, to Columbia University, no less, to study journalism and human rights.What happens next is truly scary. For many, it will sound familiar, for others, barely believable. Ben became victim of another cult.An interview with Ben Appel This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit juliebindel.substack.com/subscribe