
Who Will Dominate the AI Era? I AI CEO Podcast I Jason Michael Perry
AI-Native Companies Will Win. Here's Why.
AI is moving fast — but the CEOs who win won't just "use tools."
They'll build AI into the way their business operates.
In this episode, Seema Alexander sits down with Jason Michael Perry, CEO of Perry Labs and author of The AI Evolution, to unpack what's actually happening in this shift — from data readiness to agents, AGI frameworks, and why AI-native companies will outpace everyone else.
If you're a CEO, founder, or operator asking:
"How do we innovate when everything changes every 6 months?"
This conversation is for you.
What You'll Learn
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Why AI feels familiar (like past tech shifts) — but is fundamentally more transformational
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How smaller teams + AI tools can outproduce larger teams ("vibe teaming")
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The real difference between automation, agents, and autonomy
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Jason's practical AGI ladder:
Chat → Reasoning → Agents → Innovators → Operators -
Why executive adoption matters — and how to start (even if it's basic)
⏱️ Chapters / Timestamps
00:00 – "AI-native companies will win" (cold open)
00:58 – Show intro
01:53 – Meet Jason Michael Perry
02:36 – CEO question: "How do we innovate when AI changes every 6 months?"
03:03 – Historical lens: tech has always changed
04:12 – Is AI bigger than everything before?
28:17 – Vibe teaming + modern build tools
29:17 – Small teams, outsized output
50:45 – What CEOs should do now
51:04 – The 5-layer AGI framework
52:42 – Agents vs RPA + human-in-the-loop
53:32 – Innovators + Operators
55:53 – Why orchestration decides who wins
01:20:40 – Why exec adoption is mandatory
01:21:36 – The "recipe" example (and why it matters)
01:24:34 – Closing
Where to Find Jason
Website: jasonandperry.com (newsletter, book, events)
Where to Find Seema Alexander / Disruptive AI
Instagram: @seemaalexander
LinkedIn: Seema Alexander
Disruptive AI: getdisruptive.ai
Instagram: @theaiceopodcast
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