59. Subtext: Dr. Luke v. Kesha: Out of The Darkness

"Brody" worked her way up to manager at a popular music venue in her city. During her time there, she witnessed a number of egregious and illegal activities perpetrated by the owner. When she became vocal about what she had experienced, she was fired. In this episode, we discuss how power dynamics play into harassment and abuse, and the positives of finally speaking out. If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠⁠⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

Lou Pearlman is best known for two things, launching the careers of some of the biggest pop artists of the 1990’s and being the mastermind behind one of the largest ponzi schemes in the history of the United States. In this episode of subtext Kendra and Rich break down both sides of Lou Pearlman and talk about how someone who seemingly did so many positive things for popular music also drastically altered the lives of almost every person he came in contact with for the worse. - REFERENCES Who Was Lou Pearlman? (People) Mad About The Boys (Vanity Fair) Lou Pearlman, Disgraced Backstreet Boys, ‘NSYNC Svengali, Dies at 62 (Billboard) Dirty Pop: The Boy Band Scam (Netflix, 2024) The Boy Band Con: The Lou Pearlman Story (YouTube Originals, 2019) - If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠https://www.thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

Cydni spent ten years in a relationship with the singer of a popular band that became increasingly more abusive, both physically and mentally, before she removed herself from it in 2023. In this episode she talks about what caused her to ignore the red flags she noticed at the beginning of the relationship, the ways in which the abuse escalated, and what gave her the strength to overcome the abuse and end the relationship. If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

For almost a quarter of a century, Warped Tour was the can’t-miss festival of the year for teenage and young adult fans of punk rock and all its variations. In its later years, a slew of sexual assault allegations overshadowed the bands and camaraderie for which it initially stood. In this episode, Kendra and Rich break down the history of Warped Tour and how these accusations affected the tour’s legacy. - REFERENCES Everything we know about the sexual harassment allegations against Front Porch Step (Alt Press⁠) Warped Behavior: Sexual Violence On Tour (Medium) The Truth About Dahvie Vanity (tumblr) Warped Tour is over for good. Will the culture it created finally reckon with its demons? (Washington Post) Warped Tour to Hit the Road For Final Trek in 2018: Exclusive Interview With Founder Kevin Lyman (Billboard) US band Slaves deny Vans Warped Tour sexual assault accusations (BBC News) get sexual predators removed from the 2018 Vans Warped Tour lineup (change.org) The (Pseudo) Death of Warped Tour (The Kids Aren't Alright) Where the Girls Aren’t (Rookie) - If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: https://www.thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

Part 2: Michelle details the brutal and public rape she experienced, as a minor, by the singer of a well-known rock band. She also discusses how her story has been falsely represented in books and interviews by members of that band, and what her path to healing has looked like since that time. This is the second half of a two part interview. If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠ - Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠ - Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠ - enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

Michelle Rhoades came of age in the early days of the highly influential Hollywood punk and glam rock scene. In this episode, she talks about growing up in Los Angeles and how a chance encounter with the future singer of a famous rock band led to a harrowing, life-altering experience. This is the first half of a two part interview.- If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠[email protected]⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠ - Follow us on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠ - Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠ - enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

In 2009, Chris Brown made headlines when he viciously beat artist and singer Rihanna during a domestic dispute. After a brief hiatus, Brown continued his career without seemingly any setbacks. Fifteen years after the initial incident, Rich and Kendra discuss other examples of Brown engaging in domestic abuse and violent outbursts and the accolades and praise has received for his music.  - REFERENCES Chris Brown Checks into Rehab for Anger Management, Will Stay Up to Three Months (Complex) Chris Brown: Timeline of violence towards women - If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠https://www.thebadcopy.com⁠ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

For nine years, award winning producer Dr. Luke and pop songstress Kesha battled in court over her accusations that she was drugged, raped, emotionally abused, and body shamed by the producer. Kendra and Rich discuss numerous facets of the lawsuits, including the complexities of multi state suits, interpersonal ties to the music industry which may have skewed judgments, and the recent settlement. - REFERENCES Kesha and Dr. Luke reach a settlement over rape and defamation claims (NPR) Pink has explained why she'll never work with Dr Luke again (Stylist) Kelly Clarkson claims she lost ‘millions’ after refusing co-writing credit alongside Dr. Luke (Global News) Sony reportedly ends partnership with Dr. Luke amid legal battle with Kesha (Global News) 'Women sit next to abusers at music industry parties' MPs warn (BBC News) - If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

Nick Carter of the multi platinum selling boy band, The Backstreet Boys, has recently come under scrutiny for numerous allegations of sexual assault. We discuss the allegations, the girl and boy band industry of the 90s, and Fallen Idols, a documentary recently released about Nick and Aaron Carter. - REFERENCES Nick Carter Sexual-Assault Allegations Get Louder (Vulture) Nick Carter sued by a third woman who accuses him of sexually assaulting her in her teens (LA Times) Nick Carter, Backstreet Boys star, sued for alleged 2003 sexual assault of 15-year-old (The Guardian) Nick Carter sex assault case: Singer, father to appeal to Nevada Supreme Court (Newsnation) Fallen Idols: Nick and Aaron Carter Documentary, 2024 (Max) - If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support

In 2017, dozens of women came forward to speak out against the abuse they faced from film mogul and heavyweight Harvey Weinstein. In April 2024, after an extensive appeals process, his New York conviction was overturned. Rich and Kendra discuss what this means for his future, the #metoo movement, and survivors nationwide. - REFERENCES Harvey Weinstein timeline: How the scandal has unfolded (BBC News) Harvey Weinstein’s rape conviction is overturned by New York’s top court (AP News) Anita Hill discusses overturn of Weinstein's rape conviction and what it means for #MeToo (PBS News Hour) 'We've come too far': Weinstein's overturned rape conviction won't stop #MeToo movement, advocates say (NBC News) - If you have been on the receiving end of harm from someone: be it artist, venue owner, audience member, or someone else and would like to share your story on a future episode, please reach out to us at: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ - Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.thisisenoughpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enough.podcast⁠⁠⁠ Watch this episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@enoughpodcast⁠⁠⁠ enough. is a feature on Bad Copy: ⁠⁠⁠https://thebadcopy.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/enoughpodcast/support