Interview with Clay Shultz - S4 EP21 - The Self-Preservation Nine In Their Growth Path

Enneagram 2.0 on a Tuesday? You heard that right! Our hosts have some exciting news to share!In this very special episode, Urânio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut dive into energy, energetic work, and the Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram. They explore how everything in the universe is energy, and how each type expresses distinct energetic patterns that shape emotions, behavior, and inner development.Urânio and Bea also discuss how accessing subtle levels of energy, including intuition, energy fields, and subtle bodies, is essential for advancing into deeper psychological and spiritual work.And there’s more: they invite you to a free Discovery Session and introduce their new course on intuitive development, energy management, and expanding consciousness, designed to help you awaken your spiritual gifts and integrate the Enneagram at higher levels of awareness.Join the Discovery Session: https://cpenneagram.com/beyond-the-physical-you-discovery-sessionLearn All About The Course: https://cpenneagram.com/beyond-the-physical-youLike learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

Today, Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut Madeline Rains. She is an Enneagram coach who offers services through Arcana Wellness -- a group practice in Asheville, NC that offers psychotherapy, spiritual care, as well as enneagram coaching and retreats. Arcana Wellness providers Mollie & Anthony Pleetanino also specialize in psychedelic medicine and research. As such, much of their enneagram offerings bridge enneagram learning with guidance for those receiving or facilitating psychedelic medicine work.Please visit us at arcanawellness.org We offer services virtually as well as in-person in the Asheville area.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

Today, Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut talk with Clay Schultz about the growth path of Type 9, especially the self-preservation subtype. In this episode, Clay shares his personal journey of bodily and emotional awakening, showing how Nines can overcome inertia and numbness through presence and conscious action.He speaks about the challenge of leaving behind comfortable routines, facing repressed anger, and reconnecting with his own desire and sense of purpose. Urânio, Bea, and Clay explore how true “peacemaking” requires facing conflict and learning to act from one’s own truth.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

Today, Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut welcome Rachel Peterka to discuss the sexual subtype of Type 1 in the Enneagram. In this episode, Rachel shares her personal experience as an intense “reformer,” navigating anger, self-criticism, and the challenge of balancing perfectionism with acceptance. The conversation explores how this subtype channels its energy, learns to deal with repressed emotions, and finds serenity through body and emotional integration. Uranio, Bea, and Rachel reveal how Type 1’s growth path involves self-compassion, lightness, and openness to imperfection.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

Today, Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut talk about the somatic dimension of the Enneagram. In this episode, they explain how each type and subtype expresses tension and blockages in the body, and how this influences emotions and behavioral patterns.Urânio and Bea share practical examples of how the instincts and triads impact different areas of the body and even physical health. They highlight the importance of body-based work for self-development, disease prevention, and deeper integration of consciousness.We’d like to apologize for Quisto, Urânio’s Dog. He was so eager to participate in today’s episode that we couldn’t fully contain him! Our editor did her best to minimize the noises, but there was still some, she hopes it wasn’t too much of nuisance.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

In this week’s episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes sit down with Chris Schoolcraft, founder of CLS Leadership and Coach at CP Enneagram Academy!In this meaningful conversation, Chris shares his story with the Enneagram, with deep insights on how it helped him on professional and personal levels, and shares beautiful learnings on being a Five.Learn more about his work in https: https://www.clsleadership.com/Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

In this week’s episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes sit down with Leslie McDaniel, founder of Hello, Personality.In this deep, heartwarming conversation, Leslie shares beautiful insights of her inner work with the Enneagram, as well as her outer work, leading others in self-discovery and growth journeys through the Enneagram practice.Learn more about her work in https://www.lesliemcdaniel.com/ Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

In this week’s episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes sit down with parenting coach Khadija Bennani.In this heartwarming conversation, Khadija shares beautiful insights from her work with Conscious Parenting, Parenting Coaching, and the Enneagram. She also reflects on how the Enneagram typing tool has helped her refine her coaching skills and guide her clients through meaningful transformations in their parenting choices.You can learn more about Khadija’s work on https://www.instagram.com/leparentconscientLike learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

In this week’s episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes sit down with Mark Barcus, coach and Immigration Judge for Training and Management at the U.S. Department of Justice.In this lighthearted and insightful conversation, Mark shares his journey with the Enneagram, his experience as a Social Seven, and how the Enneagram has shaped both his personal and professional paths.In this heartwarming conversation, Ivy opens up about her personal journey with the Enneagram — sharing how she faced her fears, worked through challenges and patterns, and began living as her best self. She also reflects on how the Enneagram supported her through deep inner questions and the experience of motherhood, offering a beautiful and moving testimony.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: / @chestnutpaesenneagramacademy Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / cpenneagram Sign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]

In this week’s episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes sit down with their student and dear friend, Ivy Jacobson.In this heartwarming conversation, Ivy opens up about her personal journey with the Enneagram — sharing how she faced her fears, worked through challenges and patterns, and began living as her best self. She also reflects on how the Enneagram supported her through deep inner questions and the experience of motherhood, offering a beautiful and moving testimony.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://learn.cpenneagram.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://enneagramcompass.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: / @chestnutpaesenneagramacademy Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / cpenneagram Sign up for our newsletter ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠Questions? ⁠[email protected]