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Happiness Makes Money: The Real Secret to Employee Engagement with Scott Friedman & Paul ter Wal

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Is your leadership style costing you a fortune? In this high-energy episode from the archive, Andy Lopata revisits a global conversation with employee engagement specialists Scott Friedman and Paul ter Wal. They challenge the outdated "command and control" hierarchy, replacing it with a radical yet profitable philosophy: Happiness makes money. Engagement isn't just a corporate program or a ping-pong table in the breakroom—it is a two-way street built on a foundation of absolute trust. You’ll hear Scott share a powerful technique for setting the intention from day one by asking new hires to agree that this will be the “best job they’ve ever had.” Meanwhile, Paul breaks down why leaders should stop standing on top of their teams and start standing behind them. From the "I Test" of inclusive language, to the scientific reason you should never lead more than 20 people if you actually want to listen, this episode is a masterclass in modern leadership. Discover how to turn "quiet quitting" into high-performance engagement by shifting your mindset from controlling behavior to facilitating success. What You Will Learn in this episode: The "Best Job Ever" Contract: What is the specific agreement you should make with every new hire before they even start? The 20-Person Rule: Why does science say a leader's effectiveness drops off a cliff when managing a team larger than 20? Hiring for Purpose: Why is the new generation of talent running away from high salaries and toward this one specific cultural trait? The "I Test" Reveal: How can a simple word count of your latest speech or email prove your leadership style is alienating your team? Leading from Behind: What is the one question a leader should ask every day to guarantee the best results from their professionals? Actionable Insights: Shift from Controller to Facilitator: Stop telling your team how to behave and start asking, "What do you need from me to be the best?" This simple shift in perspective moves the leader from a "checker of boxes" to a supporter of professionals. Define Your "Non-Negotiables": Don't let your core values be "lip service" buried on a website. Identify 5–10 written ground rules for behavior and accountability, and model them daily. If the leadership doesn't model the values, the team will never live them. Schedule "Unagenda'd" Listening: Multitasking is a myth. To build trust, you must sit down, drink a cup of coffee, and listen without an agenda. In a hybrid or remote world, this means creating intentional spaces—like "open cafes"—where people can connect as humans, not just as employees. SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE Connect with Andy Lopata: Website | Instagram | LinkedIn | X/Twitter | YouTube Connect with Scott Friedman: Website |LinkedIn | Connect with Paul ter Wal: Website The Financial Times Guide to Mentoring Episode 166 Featuring Scott Friedman & Paul Ter Wal

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