Between Peaks and Presence, with Leslie Vallecillo, Josh Holland, Philip Mangan and Eme Morato

In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, Manuel “Eme” Morato sits down with Leslie Vallecillo, Josh Holland, and Philip Mangan to revisit an unforgettable expedition through the wild landscapes of British Columbia. The group, supported by Vivobarefoot, was dropped deep into the backcountry by helicopter and set out to hike ten peaks in minimalist shoes, an experience that pushed their physical, mental, and emotional boundaries while deepening their connection to nature and one another. Together, they reflect on what it means to move through the world with intention and awareness, stripped down to the essentials. Each guest shares what the journey revealed to them about endurance, trust, and the power of collective experience. The conversation also touches on the upcoming documentary that captures their adventure: an intimate portrayal of both the challenge and the beauty found in reconnecting with the wild. This episode is both a reflection and a teaser: a glimpse into an expedition that became more than a physical test, it became a lesson in humility, presence, and the profound sense of belonging that emerges when humans return to the rhythms of the Earth.

In this episode Mau Díaz is joined by Aaron Kerehoma, a movement guide, runner, and guardian of Māori ancestral knowledge. Aaron brings together his passion for movement and his deep connection to Māori traditions, offering a unique perspective on how ancient wisdom can inform the way we live, move, and connect today. Mau and Aaron begin by exploring some foundational Māori concepts, uncovering the ways in which these ideas can expand our understanding of community, balance, and respect for the natural world. Aaron shares how these teachings guide his approach to running and movement, turning them into practices of alignment with both the body and spirit. The conversation also reflects on the unforgettable Aire Libre experience Aaron guided in New Zealand, where participants discovered not only the breathtaking landscapes of Aotearoa but also the cultural and spiritual depth of the Māori worldview. Through Aaron’s words, we are reminded that movement is more than exercise, it’s a way of healing, connecting, and honoring the wisdom of those who came before us.  

In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, Mau Díaz sits down with Rob Watson, a lifelong runner, lululemon Run Ambassador, coach, and host of Rob Talks Running, to explore the deeper journey behind a life built around movement. Rob shares his story of how running became his compass, not only shaping his career but helping him navigate challenges, identity, and reinvention along the way. Together, Mau and Rob reflect on what it means to devote yourself to something fully, to chase performance, and then to learn how to let go. They talk about the emotional highs of professional competition, the quiet struggles that don’t show up on race results, and the process of rediscovering joy and purpose in running after the spotlight fades. Rob speaks candidly about vulnerability, mental resilience, and the importance of community, both in training and in life. This conversation is not just for runners, it’s for anyone who has ever asked what comes after striving, or how to stay grounded while pushing toward big goals. Through humor, humility, and hard-earned wisdom, Rob reminds us that growth isn’t just about getting faster: it’s about knowing when to pause, when to pivot, and how to keep showing up.  Follow Rob Watson https://www.instagram.com/robtalksrunning/  

In this episode Mau Díaz sits down with Jessie Zapo—ultrarunner, art therapist, multidisciplinary artist, and community builder. Known for blending movement, expression, and healing, Jessie has carved out a unique path where running, art, and care for others converge. Her work is rooted in the belief that the body is not only a vehicle for endurance, but also a medium for emotional and creative release. Mau and Jessie begin by tracing her early journey as a runner—how it started, what kept her coming back, and how it evolved into something much deeper than physical training. Jessie shares how running has helped her process her own inner landscape, while simultaneously strengthening the communities she’s been part of. For her, running is both a solitary and collective act—an anchor in difficult times and a bridge to meaningful connection with others. The conversation then moves into the rich intersection of running, art, and healing. Jessie opens up about her work as an art therapist and how movement fuels her creative practice. She explores the idea of running as ritual, as a canvas, and as a tool for transformation—not only for herself but for those she supports in her community. This episode is a powerful reflection on how running can go beyond the physical to become a pathway to wholeness, creativity, and care. Follow Jessie: @jessiezapo

In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, host Mau Díaz sits down with Nicholas Charlier, a leader in the health and movement industry with over 13 years of experience. Nicholas has built a career around creating impactful programs that inspire connection, healing, and a deeper understanding of the human body. As the driving force behind Vivobarefoot’s community programs and the innovative VivoHealth platform, Nicholas has integrated education, research, and coaching into a global network that supports a holistic approach to well-being. Together, Mau and Nicholas go into the transformative power of movement and the art of reconnecting with nature through running. Nicholas shares his insights on the benefits of barefoot running, exploring how it allows us to engage with our surroundings more authentically and fosters a stronger connection to the natural world. They discuss how healing, both physical and mental, is deeply intertwined with movement and how running can be a profound practice of mindfulness and presence. Nicholas also shares his journey as a trail runner, competing in half-marathon and marathon distances, and how his personal experiences have shaped his professional philosophy. This episode offers a thoughtful conversation about the intersection of running, wellness, and community, leaving listeners inspired to explore their own paths to deeper connection, healing, and joy through movement.

In this episode of the Beyond Running podcast, Mau Díaz sits down with Maxime Galpin, a runner, meditator, and guide for Aire Libre’s French Pyrenees experience. Maxim has spent years exploring the intersection of movement and mindfulness, creating Zen and Run—a practice that merges running with meditation, helping people connect more deeply with themselves and the natural world. Together, they explore the ways in which running can become more than just a physical pursuit—it can be a form of presence, healing, and inner exploration. Their conversation begins with the magic of the French Pyrenees experience, where Maxime leads runners through breathtaking landscapes while fostering a deep sense of connection among participants. Mau and Maxime reflect on how the shared journey of running in these remote mountains creates a powerful bond, allowing people to slow down, be present, and truly engage with both nature and each other. This profound sense of community and presence sets the stage for their deeper discussion on Zen and Run and the philosophy behind merging meditation with movement. Maxime shares how mindfulness has transformed his own running practice, turning each step into an act of awareness and grounding. He and Mau discuss the benefits of slowing down—both in running and in life—and how tuning into the present moment can make movement more fulfilling. Whether you're an experienced runner or someone looking for a deeper connection to the sport, this episode offers insights into how running can be a gateway to greater self-awareness, balance, and joy.

In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, Mau Díaz reconnects with writer, poet, and endurance runner Josh Lynott for a compelling follow-up conversation. After previously appearing on Josh’s podcast, Mau brings the dialogue full circle as they explore the deep and surprising connections between running and art. Together, they delve into how movement can be more than just physical effort—it can transform into a form of creative expression and storytelling. Josh shares his unique perspective on running as an art form, drawing from his experiences as a writer and endurance athlete. He reflects on the parallels between the discipline required in training and the creative process of writing, highlighting how both involve perseverance, vulnerability, and the pursuit of meaning. The conversation touches on the ways running and art intersect to create stories, evoke emotions, and allow us to connect with ourselves and the world in profound ways. This episode invites you to see running through a new lens—not just as a sport or activity but as a deeply creative and human act. Whether you’re a runner, an artist, or someone who seeks inspiration in the everyday, this conversation with Josh Lynott will leave you with fresh insights on the power of movement, creativity, and storytelling.  

In this inspiring episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, host Leslie Payro sits down with Cal Calamia—an accomplished trans marathoner, ultramarathoner, and inclusivity activist. Cal, who uses they/he pronouns, has been a trailblazer for non-binary visibility in the running world. From becoming the first non-binary winner of both Bay to Breakers and the San Francisco Marathon, to advocating for the inclusion of non-binary categories in prestigious races like the Boston and New York Marathons, Cal has made waves in the sport. In this conversation, Cal shares their journey from competing at Saint Louis University to advocating for gender inclusivity at major races, including their recent push for non-binary representation in the Berlin Marathon. Cal also reflects on the founding of the Non-Binary Run Club, their work as an educator, and their passion for poetry, which is captured in their collection San Franshitshow. Tune in to hear Cal’s personal story of resilience, the power of community, and their dedication to pushing for a more inclusive future in marathon running. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!  

In this inspiring episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, host Leslie Payró sits down with Beba Guzmán to discuss her remarkable experience organizing and leading a team of Rarámuri women in The Speed Project race, an epic journey from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. Beba shares the challenges they faced, from logistical hurdles to cultural adjustments, and the profound rewards of seeing these incredible women conquer such a demanding race. The conversation explores the importance of encouraging and supporting women to participate in diverse sports and races, highlighting the need for greater representation and inclusion. Beba's story is a testament to the power of community, determination, and the transformative impact of running. Join us for this powerful discussion on breaking barriers and empowering women in the running world, as Leslie and Beba explore the triumphs and tribulations of bringing the Rarámuri spirit to one of the most grueling and exhilarating races in the world. Relevant links: @bebaguzman @thespeedproject @ra_ra_raaaaaa

In this episode of the Beyond Running Podcast, Mau Díaz, co-founder of Aire Libre, engages in a compelling conversation with Tina Muir. Tina Muir, known for her popular Running for Real podcast, discusses her evolving relationship with running, highlighting the shift from an intense, performance-driven mindset to a more inclusive, community-oriented approach. She opens up about the challenges and rewards of this transition and how it has enriched her life and connections within the running world. The conversation gets into Tina's new book, "Becoming a Sustainable Runner: A Guide to Running for Life, Community, and Planet," where she offers valuable insights on how to sustain a lifelong love for running. Tina and Mau explore the themes of the book, discussing the importance of running for personal well-being, fostering community bonds, and respecting and preserving our natural environment. Join us for this thought-provoking episode as Tina Muir and Mau Díaz share their passion for running, emphasizing the joy of connecting with others and the planet through this beautiful sport. Whether you're an elite athlete or a casual runner, this conversation will inspire you to view running through a new, sustainable lens. You can find out more about Tina Muir in the following links: https://linktr.ee/tinamuir88 Use the code TINAMUIR to get a discount in our upcoming Costa Rica experience (limited to 4 spots).  Read about the Costa Rica experience here: https://airelibre.earth/running-experiences/costa-rica-2024/