Ep 372. Maha Al Musa: Belly Dance as Preparation for Childbirth and Guiding Practice Through Menopause

Maha Al Musa is an award-winning international childbirth educator, speaker, and the founder of EmbodyBirth and BellydanceBirth®, a pioneering approach to pregnancy and birth preparation she has been teaching since 1997. A leading advocate for natural birth, breastfeeding, and women’s embodied wisdom, she is the author of the acclaimed book Dance of the Womb: The Essential Guide to Belly Dance for Pregnancy and Birth, along with a widely recognized practice video series. Maha has presented at major conferences and institutions worldwide, sharing her work across Australia, the USA, India, and China. A mother of three, she is known for integrating personal experience with decades of teaching, including giving birth to her daughter at 46 in a home water lotus birth. Her work has received international awards and endorsements from respected figures in the birth community, and continues to influence both mothers and birth professionals globally.In this episode you will learn about:- Why most women are disconnected from their bodies—and how dance can rebuild that trust- Reasons why traditional belly dance was never about choreography—but about energy, emotion, and shared presence- Why professional belly dancers often struggle with birth—and the impact of muscle tension and control- How fear, medical systems, and external authority can disconnect women from their own instincts- Approaching menopause as a powerful rite of passage rather than declineShow Notes to this episode:Find Maha Al Musa on Instagram, YouTube, and her website with book and courses info.Details the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

April Rose is a belly dancer, teacher, and creator of the Dance Cohesion method, known for her precise technique, integration of finger cymbals and frame drum, and emphasis on group improvisation and musical connection. Based in Austin, Texas, she has taught and performed in over 25 countries, sharing a fusion approach rooted in Middle Eastern, North African, Turkish, Hellenic, and Central and South Asian dance influences. With a background that includes a bachelor’s degree in Dance and a master’s in Culture and Performance from UCLA, April combines academic research with embodied practice, exploring dance as a tool for presence, creativity, and human connection. She is also the founder of the Boss Bellydancer training program, where she mentors dancers in building sustainable and meaningful professional careers.In this episode you will learn about:- What multi-generational dance spaces can teach us beyond technique- How alternative dance communities expanded ideas of beauty, identity, and self-expression- The balance between respect for cultural roots and freedom to explore the dance- The reality of building a sustainable dance career without burnout- Why dance is ultimately a practice of presence, creativity, and human connectionShow Notes to this episode:Find April Rose on Instagram, FB, YouTube, TikTok and her website.Our listeners can get April’s "Frame Drum for Bellydance Workshop Bundle" for free when they use the code PODCAST during check out: https://brilliantbellydancer.com/framedrumforbellydancewithaprilrose/Details the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Dr. George Sawa is an internationally recognized musicologist, performer, and educator specializing in Arabic music history, theory, and performance. Born in Alexandria, Egypt, he brings over 50 years of experience, with training from the Higher Institute of Arabic Music and a PhD in historical Arabic musicology from the University of Toronto. He has taught at the University of Toronto and York University, and lectured and performed worldwide. A prolific author on medieval and modern Arabic music, his work bridges historical research with contemporary practice and has become an important resource for the dance community. He was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award by the Egyptian Ministry of Culture for his contributions to Arabic music research.In this episode you will learn about:- How translating 11th-century Arabic music dictionaries reveals detailed insights into dancers, musicians, and aesthetics of that time- Why even medieval musicians warned dancers about tricky drummers—and the importance of knowing the music- The reality of fusion in history—and why some combinations worked while others failed- How European influence shaped Egyptian music and led to the rise of large orchestras- Why modern dancers struggle to interpret older music—and what is required to truly dance to itShow Notes to this episode:Find Dr George Sawa on YouTube, FB, and website with the info about his publications.Previous interview with Dr George Sawa:Ep 75. George Sawa: Digging Deep Into the History of Egyptian MusicDetails the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Bindu Bolar is an award-winning Indian dance artist and a pioneer of Tribal Fusion Belly Dance in her country, known for creating her signature style, “Belly Animation,” which blends belly dance with popping and animation. She is the founder and artistic director of Lights Camera Dance in Bangalore and has built an international career as a performer and teacher, leading workshops across the USA, Europe, and Asia. After initially balancing a career in software with dance, she chose to fully pursue her artistic path despite social pressures. Bindu has trained with leading figures including Rachel Brice, Zoe Jakes, and Carolena Nericcio, and was the first Indian dancer to win an International Belly Dance title in the Solo Tribal category. She continues to evolve as an artist and educator, with a strong focus on individuality and lifelong learning.In this episode you will learn about:- Why movement can become a form of communication beyond words- What it means to move beyond technique and become an artist who makes people feel- The reality of pursuing dance in a conservative environment—and the stigma around belly dance- How dancers navigate family pressure, social judgment, and career risks- Reframing success and failure into milestones and lessons in a lifelong artistic journeyShow Notes to this episode:Find Bindu Bolar on Instagram.Details the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Kamilia is a Brazilian-born belly dancer who built an international career performing across Lebanon, the United Arab Emirates, and Egypt, where she became known for her powerful stage presence and deep connection to Oriental music. Beginning her dance journey at the age of six, she went on to become one of the youngest dancers featured on LBC TV and trained under renowned figures including Caracalla. At the height of her performance career, she appeared in top five-star hotels in Cairo, sharing stages with icons such as Lucy, Mona Said, Fifi Abdou, Dina, and Hendeya, and performing with large live orchestras of up to 45 musicians. Today, Kamilia works as a teacher, artistic producer, and event organizer, dedicated to building a supportive and professional global dance community.In this episode you will learn about:- How Oriental dance has shifted from local Arabic dominance to a global, foreign-led scene- How economic changes transformed belly dance performances into shorter, simplified formats- What does it mean to be prepared for the dance improvisation- Why foreigners must train their ears differently to truly understand Arabic music- What it means to remain a “forever learner” after 30+ years in danceShow Notes to this episode:Find Kamilia on Instagram, and FB.Previous interview with Kamilia:Ep 62. Kamilia: Dreaming of a Big Supportive CommunityDetails the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Ellie is a belly dancer, teacher, and researcher who approaches Raqs Sharqi with a deep respect for its cultural roots and a focus on connection through movement. Dancing since childhood, she discovered belly dance in 2014 and has since spent over years teaching and performing, cultivating a practice centered on confidence, femininity, and ongoing learning. Alongside her dance career, Ellie holds a PhD in Mental Health and brings a research-based perspective to understanding the psychological and emotional experiences of dancers. She has trained and certified with leading international instructors, including Kaeshi Chai and Keti Sharif, and further deepened her connection to the dance through studies in Egypt and Turkey.In this episode you will learn about:- Why belly dance can feel both empowering and intimidating at the same time- The difference between hobbyists and professionals — and the hidden pressures of making dance a career- The darker side of the dance world — competition, insecurity, and even bullying within the community- Simple but powerful tools for self-care — from shimmies to emotional awareness- And how belly dance continues to create connection, belonging, and a sense of home across the worldShow Notes to this episode:Find Ellie on Instagram, FB, and website.Details the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Julieta Maffia is a dance artist from Buenos Aires, Argentina, specializing in what was formerly known as Tribal Fusion Bellydance. She is the founder of Saturnus Studio, where she teaches regular classes and develops a wide range of artistic projects. Her work has been recognized internationally, allowing her to present the Argentinian approach to this dance form across different cities worldwide. Through her travels, Julieta continues to expand and refine her artistic voice, integrating diverse influences into her creation, teaching, and performance.In this episode you will learn about:- The ongoing search for femininity and sensuality beyond stereotypes and expectations- How politics and media shaped public perception of belly dance in Argentina- Why growth happens through discomfort, failure, and real performance experience- How stage performance can unlock a level of freedom unavailable in daily life- Why workshops inspire—but real transformation happens through consistent trainingShow Notes to this episode:Find Julieta Maffia on Instagram, and YouTube.Details the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Tamalyn Dallal is an internationally renowned belly dancer, teacher, and author celebrating over 50 years in dance. She began her career in 1976 and toured South America in the 1980s performing for Arab communities before founding the Mid Eastern Dance Exchange in Miami Beach, a nonprofit school and performing company that operated from 1990 to 2007 and trained many professional dancers. She later created and produced the Orientalia International Dance Festival for 14 years, presenting leading artists from around the world and expanding the festival internationally. Tamalyn has performed or taught in 44 countries, was one of the original Bellydance Superstars, and has written four books, produced music recordings, and directed ethnographic dance films including Zanzibar Dance, Trance and Devotion and Ethiopia Dances for Joy.In this episode you will learn about:- What it means to celebrate 50 years in belly dance and how the industry has transformed over five decades- How teaching online requires a completely different kind of presence, connection, and preparation- How choreography can expand a dancer’s vocabulary—but why true performance must go beyond memorized steps- The challenge of comparison in the age of Instagram—and why individuality matters more than perfection- How dancers can adapt to trends without losing their artistic voiceShow Notes to this episode:Find Tamalyn Dallal on Instagram, FB, YouTube, and her website. Join Tamalyn's Substack for essays and articles.Previous interview with Tamalyn:Ep 51. Tamalyn Dallal: Following Her Heart & Destroying "Us Vs Them" StereotypesDetails the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Sandra Kahloun, born in Tunisia and raised in the world of Oriental music, grew up surrounded by some of the greatest names of Egyptian art. Her father produced the renowned Egyptian orchestra Abdel Aziz Mahmour in 1970s Paris, and her mother was an interpreter of Oum Kalsoum’s repertoire, giving Sandra a deep musical foundation from childhood. She trained extensively in Cairo with masters such as Ibrahim Akef and Sammy Abdelhalim, studying dance and repertory for over a decade at the Theatre and Arts Academy of Cairo. In 1986, she created “Sandra’s Method,” a codified teaching system centered on musical interpretation, repertory structure, and improvisation. Founder of one of the largest Oriental Dance Academies on the Côte d’Azur, she has trained dancers and choreographers worldwide and is known for her rigorous musical standards, technical precision, and dedication to preserving the depth and integrity of Egyptian dance traditions.In this episode you will learn about:- Why classical belly dance is making a comeback — and why more students now crave musical depth over trends- The difference between copying choreography and truly interpreting a song- What it really means to be a teacher — and why great dancers are not automatically great educators- How Sandra’s structured method trains dancers for improvisation, not memorization- Why festivals and quick workshops cannot replace long-term musical trainingShow Notes to this episode:Find Sandra Kahloun on Instagram, FB, YouTube, and her website.Previous interview with Sandra:Ep 47. Sandra: Rules Of ImprovisationDetails the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast

Natalie Nayun is an international teacher and performer specializing in contemporary and folkloric dance traditions from Central Asia and the Middle East. With over 20 years of dance experience and 15 years of teaching, she has studied extensively in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkey, and Oman, conducting research and training through grants including the HAAS Scholar Award, CLS, and FLAS for Persian language study. She is a well-known soloist and Assistant Director of Ballet Afsaneh, choreographer for the UC Berkeley Central Asian and Middle Eastern Dance Company, Sorayya, and former director of Adara Dance Company. Natalie has completed residencies with state dance ensembles in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and continues to travel regularly to the region for research and collaboration.In this episode you will learn about:- The powerful difference between social dance and theatrical folk versions shaped by government agendas- What Natalie discovered studying in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan: 5 a.m. training, government ensembles, village libraries — and people drumming on tables to show her their dance- How weddings, birth rituals, and even mourning ceremonies keep dance alive as a lived, communal practice- The creation of a global online platform dedicated to the Central Asian dances, which supported 40+ teachers worldwide during the pandemic time and afterward- Why art is often the first thing silenced by governments— and what that reveals about its powerShow Notes to this episode:Find Natalie Nayun on Instagram, FB, YouTube and website. Check online classes at her Pomegranate Garden Dance platform.Book recommendations from Natalie Nayun:- Gender and Dance in Modern Iran by Ida Meftahi - Gesture, Dance Nation; Dance and Social Change in Uzbekistan by Mary Masayo Doi - Chorephobia by Anthony ShayDetails the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comDetails the BDE shows and training programs are available at www.JoinBDE.comFollow Iana on Instagram, FB, and Youtube . Check out her online classes and intensives at the Iana Dance Club.Find information on how you can support Ukraine and Ukrainian belly dancers HERE.Podcast: www.ianadance.com/podcast