AI Isn’t the Answer: Why Cybersecurity Fundamentals Still Decide OT and IT Success

Podcast: PrOTect It All (LS 26 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: AI Isn’t the Answer: Why Cybersecurity Fundamentals Still Decide OT and IT SuccessPub date: 2025-12-29Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationAI is everywhere - but it won’t fix broken cybersecurity foundations. In this end-of-year wrap-up episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow takes a hard look at the growing hype around AI in cybersecurity and explains why fundamentals still matter more than any shiny new tool, especially in OT environments. Drawing from real-world experience and industry observations, Aaron challenges the belief that AI can compensate for missing basics like asset inventory, network segmentation, and clear ownership. He reframes AI as a powerful assistant not a savior and warns against the risks of rushing into automation without understanding what you’re protecting in the first place. You’ll learn: Why basic cybersecurity hygiene still determines success or failure How AI fits best when foundations are already in place The dangers of shadow AI in OT and industrial environments Why asset visibility and segmentation remain non-negotiable How leaders should think about AI as a support tool - not a shortcut What OT and IT teams should prioritize heading into 2026Whether you’re closing out the year or planning ahead, this episode delivers a grounded, experience-driven perspective on building resilient cybersecurity programs—without chasing hype. Tune in to hear why mastering the basics is still the smartest cyber strategy - only on Protect It All. Key Moments:  03:32 "Technology Complexity vs. Practicality" 09:33 "AI as an Entry-Level Intern" 12:29 "AI: A Powerful Team Tool" 16:24 "AI Alone Won't Fix Cyber" 19:34 "Mastering Basics Before AI Integration" 21:46 "Shadow AI and Resilience" 25:26 "Addressing Gaps and Ownership" 30:27 "Foundations Matter for Success" Connect With Aaron Crow: Website: www.corvosec.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrow Learn more about PrOTect IT All: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://protectitall.co/  X: https://twitter.com/protectitall  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrOTectITAll  FaceBook:  https://facebook.com/protectitallpodcast  To be a guest or suggest a guest/episode, please email us at [email protected] Please leave us a review on Apple/Spotify Podcasts: Apple   - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/protect-it-all/id1727211124 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1Vvi0euj3rE8xObK0yvYi4The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Aaron Crow, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: Rail Cybersecurity & OT SOCs in the Middle East (Arabic) | 56Pub date: 2025-12-26Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn this first-ever ICS Arabia Podcast episode focused on rail cybersecurity and OT Security Operations Centers (SOCs), I sit down with Omar Sherin, Consulting Partner at PwC Middle East and a pioneer in the region’s critical infrastructure protection.We explore:1- Rail-specific cyber threats and how OT SOCs are built to defend them2- Real-world challenges in the Middle East’s transportation sector3- National efforts to build security labs for firmware, SBOMs, and ICS hardware4- How Arab countries can strategically improve their OT cybersecurity postureThe podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: Securing the Digital Power Grid (Arabic) | 67Pub date: 2025-12-26Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn this episode 🎙️, we host Dr. Fouad Abou Chacra, VP Digitalization at Dubai Electricity & Water Authority (DEWA), to discuss the importance of OT cybersecurity in the power utilities sector. ⚡We talk about: 🔹 Why OT security is critical for electricity and water systems. 🔹 The current threat landscape and examples from the field. 🔹 How standards like IEC 62443 and NERC CIP help build cyber resilience. 🔹 The impact of AI, IT/OT convergence, and digitalization on power operations.Dr. Fouad shares practical insights from his experience in managing digital and OT systems, cybersecurity risks, and innovation in critical infrastructure.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: Pharma OT Security | 64Pub date: 2025-12-26Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationWe’re joined by Andre Froneman, OT Solutions Specialist at Datacentrix — a cybersecurity professional with hands-on experience across the pharma, mining, automotive, and energy sectors.In this episode, we dive deep into pharmaceutical OT cybersecurity, exploring how one of the world’s most sensitive industries protects its operations, data, and intellectual property from cyber threats.💡 Topics we cover:1- Securing recipes and intellectual property in pharma2- Managing IoT/IIoT attack surfaces3- How robots and automation are reshaping production lines4- The importance of PLC & HMI backups5- DFIR and testbeds in pharma OT environments5- Why South Africa has become a testbed for APTs targeting the industry6- Practical advice for newcomers joining OT security forcesThe podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Industrial Cybersecurity InsiderEpisode: The Hidden Reason Most Manufacturing Cybersecurity Programs FailPub date: 2025-12-23Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationDino sits down with cybersecurity expert Wil Klusovsky to discuss the massive gap between IT security practices and OT reality. With 26 years of experience, Wil shares his unconventional journey into operational technology and reveals why most security tools end up as shelfware on plant floors.They dive deep into the communication breakdown between CISOs and plant operations, the critical role of system integrators and OEMs that IT leaders often ignore, and why the "air gap" myth continues to put manufacturing facilities at risk.Wil breaks down his framework for speaking to boards in language they understand, emphasizing business impact over technical jargon. The conversation covers everything from the challenges of MFA implementation in OT environments to why patching isn't always the answer. They discuss how organizations can build effective OT security programs by making cybersecurity everyone's responsibility - not just IT's problem.Chapters:(00:00:00) - Opening: The $50K Security Investment That Nobody Uses(00:01:00) - Will's Unconventional Journey Into OT Cybersecurity(00:03:45) - The Communication Gap Between IT and OT Teams(00:07:15) - Why Asset Visibility Tools Miss 135% of Your Equipment(00:10:30) - Speaking Board Language: Revenue Loss vs. Technical Jargon(00:13:25) - The Missing Third Leg: System Integrators and OEMs(00:17:30) - Making Cybersecurity Everyone's Job, Not Just IT's Problem(00:21:15) - Why Patching Isn't Always the Answer in OT Environments(00:25:45) - The Reality Check: Physical Security in Manufacturing Plants(00:28:30) - Building a Cybersecurity Program as a Journey, Not a DestinationLinks And Resources:Wil Online LinktreeWil Klusovsky on LinkedInWant to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedInThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: What Does OT Really Mean ? | 58Pub date: 2025-12-26Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationOn the ICS Arabia Podcast 🎙️ , we sit down with Dr. Jesus Molina . He has more than 20 years of experience protecting rail, manufacturing, and critical infrastructure worldwide.We explored: 🔹 What “OT” really means in today’s security products – real value vs. marketing buzzwords 🔹 Rail cybersecurity – lessons from real-world projects and international bids 🔹 The Liberia Blackout of March 2025 – what it teaches us about resilience in critical infrastructure 🔹 Academic role: Lecturer in the Rail Cybersecurity Master’s program at Universitat Politècnica de Catalunya (Spain)The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: PrOTect It All (LS 26 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: Legacy Tech, AI Hype & Cyber Risk: What IT and OT Leaders Must Get RightPub date: 2025-12-22Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationAI promises transformation - but legacy technology, process gaps, and cyber risk often stand in the way. In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow sits down with veteran IT and cybersecurity leader Neil D. Morris, who brings over 30 years of experience across aerospace, defense, and energy sectors. Together, they cut through the hype to explore what really matters when modernizing technology and managing cyber risk in complex, real-world environments. Neil shares candid insights on why legacy systems still power critical operations, why replacing them isn’t as simple as it sounds, and how organizations can unlock real value from AI without increasing risk. The conversation dives into tech debt, regulation, ROI, and the often-overlooked role of process in successful transformation. You’ll learn: Why legacy systems aren’t going away anytime soon The hidden risks of chasing AI without strong foundations How to balance security, usability, and business value Why process and governance matter more than tools How IT leaders can communicate cyber and AI value in business terms Where AI creates opportunity - and where it creates new attack paths Whether you’re leading digital transformation, managing cyber risk, or advising the business on AI adoption, this episode delivers real talk and practical wisdom from the front lines of IT and OT leadership. Tune in to learn how to modernize responsibly, manage risk intelligently, and separate AI reality from hype only on Protect It All. Key Moments:  00:00 "Legacy Tech in Modern Firms" 06:22 "Technology, Change, and Customer Focus" 09:51 "Challenges in Articulating Cybersecurity Value" 12:27 "Tech Solutions Must Drive Value" 15:43 Sell Ideas Beyond the Code 19:03 "Ransomware Risks in Acquisitions" 24:02 Government, Services, and Compliance Debate 25:35 Balancing AI, Cybersecurity, and Regulation 30:33 BlackBerry's Downfall: Ignored Innovation 32:06 "Evolution and Misuse of AI" 34:45 "Opportunity to Lead Change" 37:52 "AI Without Guidance Backfires" 41:07 "AI: Smart but Context-Lacking" 46:45 "AI Empowering Business Transformation" 50:30 "Effortless Tech-Fueled Imitation" About the guest :  Neil D. Morris is a senior enterprise technology leader with 25+ years of experience in digital transformation, cybersecurity, and AI at scale. He currently serves as Head of IT at Redaptive and previously held CIO roles at Ball Aerospace and Maxar Technologies. Neil is known for guiding organizations through complex modernization efforts while balancing security, risk, and business value. How to connect Neil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neildmorris/ Connect With Aaron Crow: Website: www.corvosec.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrow Learn more about PrOTect IT All: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://protectitall.co/  X: https://twitter.com/protectitall  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrOTectITAll  FaceBook:  https://facebook.com/protectitallpodcast  To be a guest or suggest a guest/episode, please email us at [email protected] Please leave us a review on Apple/Spotify Podcasts: Apple   - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/protect-it-all/id1727211124 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1Vvi0euj3rE8xObK0yvYi4The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Aaron Crow, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Bites and Bytes PodcastEpisode: How AI, Data, and Digital Agronomy Will Reshape Our Food Systems with Serg MasisPub date: 2025-12-21Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn this episode, Kristin King sits down with Serg Masis, a data scientist at Syngenta, to explore how AI, data, and digital agronomy are reshaping modern agriculture (Agronomy is the science of how crops are grown—soil, climate, plants, and farming practices working together).Serg brings an engineering mindset to AI, explaining it less like science fiction and more like a murder mystery,  where multiple perspectives, incomplete information, and interpretation matter just as much as the data itself. Rather than treating AI as a black box, he breaks down how understanding why a system makes a decision is just as important as the decision itself.Together, they talk about decision-making in farming,unintended consequences in complex systems, and why changing one thing in agriculture often creates ripple effects elsewhere. If you’re curious about how technology is quietly influencing what we grow, how we farm, and what ends up on our plates, this conversation will change the way you think about food and data.---------------Guest Contact InformationGuest Info — Serg MasisWebsite: https://www.serg.ai/#about-meBooks & Writing: https://www.serg.ai/writing/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smasis/Employer (Syngenta): https://www.syngenta.com/---------------Episode Key Highlights00:11:00 — Why AI Is About Better Decision-Making, Not Replacing Humans00:13:19 — The Three Inputs of Agriculture: Environment, Genetics, and Decisions00:17:20 — Sustainability, Ecosystems, and Runaway Effects in Farming00:25:33 — AI as a Murder Mystery: Interpretation, Bias, and Perspective00:34:26 — Crop Collapse, Monocultures, and Why This Isn’t Science Fiction---------------📘 Sign up for early updates, exclusive previews, and launch news of Kristin’s Book, “Securing What Feeds Us:  Cybersecurity in Food and Agriculture,” here.---------------🎤 Book Kristin Demoranville to SpeakTo invite Kristin to speak at your conference, corporate event, webinar, or workshop, visit the website and submit a request.---------------🎤 Bites and Bytes Podcast Info:Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website.  MerchShop: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear!Substack: Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry.Schedule a Call with Kristin: Share Your Thoughts Socials:  TikTok; Instagram; LinkedIn; BlueSky---------------🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOTAnzenSage is a cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in security resilience for the food, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries.  AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at anzensage.com.​AnzenOT:  Industrial Cyber Risk — Simple.  Smart.  Swift.AnzenOT is the SaaS risk management platform built to bring clarity and control to Operational Technology (OT) cybersecurity.  Designed for critical infrastructure sectors, AnzenOT translates technical risk into clear, actionable insight for decision-makers.  Explore the platform at anzenot.com.For demo requests or inquiries, email [email protected] [email protected] podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from AnzenSage, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Nexus: A Claroty Podcast (LS 32 · TOP 5% what is this?)Episode: Jay Catherine on Securing Logistics, OT in RetailPub date: 2025-12-18Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationJay Catherine, security architect for a major retailer, joins the Nexus Podcast to discuss the intricacies of securing logistics and operational technology within the retail sector. Catherine covers various aspects of logistics cybersecurity, including risks introduced by connecting OT and IoT to the network, and the challenges of managing third-party vendor and supply chain relationships. He also discusses his unconventional career path, from hockey broadcaster to his current cybersecurity role. Listen and subscribe to the Nexus Podcast.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Claroty, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Exploited: The Cyber Truth Episode: When Vehicles Aren’t Just Machines: Cybersecurity, Autonomy & What’s NextPub date: 2025-12-18Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationAs vehicles evolve into always-connected, software-defined systems, cybersecurity decisions increasingly shape privacy, safety, and trust on the road. In this episode of Exploited: The Cyber Truth, host Paul Ducklin is joined by RunSafe Security CEO Joseph M. Saunders and special guest Sean McKeever, Global Product Cybersecurity Lead at Marelli, for a candid discussion on what it really means to secure modern vehicles. Sean brings deep industry experience to unpack how OEMs and suppliers are navigating data stewardship, autonomous testing, vehicle theft, and diverging global regulations. Together, Paul, Joe, and Sean explore: What constant connectivity means for driver privacy and data stewardshipThe risks of beta-testing autonomous systems on public roadsHow car theft has shifted from physical break-ins to software exploitationWhy U.S. and EU cybersecurity regulations take fundamentally different approachesThe importance of collaboration across OEMs, suppliers, and regulators From RF relay attacks to software-defined vehicles with decade-long lifecycles, this episode highlights why cybersecurity is no longer an add-on but a core design decision shaping the future of mobility.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from RunSafe Security, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.