191 – Don’t Dream It, Be It w/ Jackie Ess

The new era of Art and Labor cuntinues to shape up with Marshall and OK grooming holocaust, memory, and internet studies scholar Nas to become a new Nakama of the pod-ship. We ask them about so-called progressive Jewish institutions failing to recognize genocide or even twisting “never again” as a disgusting attempt to justify the … Continue reading "195 – Institutions? More like Instant Two Shits!! w/ Nas"

Iconic bald guys Marshall and OK are back, and this week they rant poetic about physical media. Who is speaking with authority? Is it us? Is it Tavi Gevinson? Is it the New York Times? Is it whoever is telling the New York Times to censor certain words and whoever is telling Tavi to pay … Continue reading "194 – Physical Media"

Art and Labor 2 is back! We take a second to decompress and to welcome new cohost Marshall, who’s talking to us today about United Musicians and Allied Workers. The group recently had campaigns bringing attention to SXSW underpaying artists and taking money from the Department of Defense. We talk about building alternative spaces and … Continue reading "193 – Suck by Suck West"

(sorry for bad mic this ep) OK and Sarah warm up the engine a little with a conversation leading from, and leading to, the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza as wespeak. What is to be done? We weigh the options- mostly, do what youcan, some of which is going to involve the heavy and … Continue reading "192 – Not in Our Name"

Honored to be graced by Jackie Ess, co-founder of the Bay Area Trans Writers Workshop and the author of the groundbreaking, cuck character study/novel of our time, Darryl. We discuss “radical trans poetics,” the historical importance of local freaks, and make an open call for more experimental jazz fusion. Don’t take our wives, please! If … Continue reading "191 – Don’t Dream It, Be It w/ Jackie Ess"

OK and Sarah are joined by two of our absolute favorite cartoonists Alex Degen and Alec Robbins to discuss One Piece both as a comic😤 and as content😩. Alec’s fantastic thread on the “corporate experiment” that is Netflix’s One Piece prompted this excellent convo on art education, WGA/SAG actions, and flattening of culture that happens … Continue reading "190 – Netflix’s One Piece w/ Alex Degen and Alec Robbins"

OK’s Disclaimer Gallery comrade Jin is in town from Hawaii and updates us on the situation in Maui, their community care work, and the Be Easy Stay Safe zine made for and by sex workers. Please follow and support Jin’s work on their Instagram. Content warning: we discuss experiences of transphobic and racist discrimination, as … Continue reading "189 – Art Work and Sex Work w/ Jin"

OK Fox and Eric Kostiuk Willams  return with a recap of festival season. We have criticisms and praises for Flamecon in NYC, Queer Trans Zine Fest in Providence, and Small Press Expo in Bethesda. We also discuss All Dolled Up, an event Eric did the poster for and OK attended in an act of rebellion against attempts … Continue reading "188 – Fagcon w/ Eric Kostiuk Willams"

Know us by our sacred form; as Clotho, Lachesis, Atropos; yuanshi tianzun, lingbao tianzun, daode tianzun; final fantasy 10, final fantasy 10-2, final fantasy 10-3 (on ao3, lulu is in a reeducation camp, yuna is given more guns)— and yes, at times in the form of OK, Lucia, and Sarah on Art and Labor: Audio … Continue reading "187 – Anon Anon Meeting"

One of us saw Barbenheimer and one of us didn’t. Wouldn’t you know it, that doesn’t stop the take machine from churning here on the new and improved ART AND LABOR 2. That’s right! We have emerged from our chrysalis to influence hearts and minds on a plane of evolution that was higher than before. … Continue reading "186 – ART AND LABOR 2"