Ep. 246: Dermot Kennedy | How an Irish Busker Became a Worldwide Phenomenon

Today's guest is the Irish troubadour who sold out arenas across the world and built one of the most durable careers in modern music, entirely on his own terms.From Dublin street corners and busking for strangers to headlining Madison Square Garden, this conversation is about what that actually costs to build the slow, deliberate construction of a career that answers to no one, yet resonates with millions around the world.He carries three things simultaneously that most artists never figure out how to hold at once: the ambition of someone who was never going to settle for Ireland only, the sensitivity of a songwriter who writes for his whole community, and the creative instincts of a kid who grew up on hip hop and folk and refused to let either one fully win.This is one of the more honest conversations about what a creative life actually looks like from the inside — not the version that gets posted, the version that gets lived.And The Writer Is... Dermot Kennedy!In this episode of And The Writer Is...We go deep on:• His whole journey• The moment he realized the audience could feel how hard he was trying — and why that was the problem • How to carry ambition, sensitivity, and creative instinct in the same body without one of them destroying the other• Building an international career without a viral hit — and what that reveals about how the industry actually works• The busking years, and the secrets for how he survived• Why he deliberately toured smaller venues on his last run — and what that decision says about success• Imposter syndrome, insecurity, and the reality of growing a career from 0-100.And much more...Hit subscribe and turn on notifications.Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials: @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors...Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapter timestamps:0:00 Intro3:30 The 3 Sides Every Creative Has to Balance4:30 You Shouldn't Rinse Your Shows. It's a Sacred Thing.5:00 What Dermot Beats Himself Up About On Stage5:30 Anxiety After the Show Starts, Not Before6:00 The Struggle of Being Lucky Enough to Have a Career8:00 Childhood9:00 "I Know I'm Good. But I Feel Very Insecure in Other Ways."14:00 How Dermot Built a Career With No Algorithm and No Social Pressure18:00 Why He Doesn't Play Music for People19:19 How He Started Busking20:15 Why Most People Couldn't Busk — and the Genius Who Changed Everything21:00 The Importance of Branding When Selling Anything22:00 How to Make Real Money Busking26:00 How Dermot Built His Name and Started Playing Shows29:00 Into the Music Business — and the Most Successful He's Ever Felt31:00 Being Sought After and Avoiding Bad Record Deals32:40 How to Build Out Your Team36:00 A Note About Touring: Enjoy Where You're At38:23 His Advice to His 15-Year-Old Self: Find Your Contentment39:23 How Dermot Kennedy Built a Worldwide FanbaseCredits:Hosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London & Jad SaadEdited by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiWatercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s guest is one of the most quietly enduring artists in modern pop — a songwriter and performer who’s spent over a decade growing up in public, learning how to separate perception from identity.She was discovered online as a teenager and quickly thrust into an industry that had already decided who she was.But behind the headlines, she was doing the real work — writing, refining her sound, and slowly building a career on her own terms.This is a conversation about perception vs reality, creative control, and what it actually takes to become yourself in an industry that benefits from misunderstanding you.And The Writer Is… Madison Beer!What you'll learn:• What it actually feels like to grow up in the public eye• The gap between how artists are perceived vs who they really are• Why longevity in music requires emotional resilience• How Madison developed her sound and creative identity over time• The pressure of early success — and rebuilding from it• Why being misunderstood can either break you or sharpen youThis episode is brought to you by the NMPA — supporting songwriters and protecting the value of music.And by Splice — the world’s largest library of sounds and samples, built for creators.Chapters:0:00 Intro1:42 Madison’s favorite songs of hers3:00 Lyrics or melody first?4:30 Ross meeting Madison at 136:00 Madison’s childhood, early memories7:00 Going through parent’s divorce in early childhood9:45 Why singing the national anthem is hard10:00 Her family’s early encouragement11:00 Madison’s first song13:00 Starting her career at 1018:40 Getting discovered overnight from a Justin Bieber tweet.19:11 Contracts in music industry19:58 Meeting Justin Bieber21:46 Why getting dropped is a blessing24:00 Struggling with early music identity26:00 Why she felt she couldn’t fight back on creative control early on28:00 finding her power through social media31:55 Reclaiming creative control33:50 writing reckless35:28 Home with you36:25 the importance of your collaborators 39:12 the original demo to Reckless41:13 being easier to write dark songs than happy songs41:40 the challenge of writing her new album41:54 NMPA42:36 Splice43:26 Going back into the label system45:00 her first tour in lockdown46:50 Madison’s touring non negotiables52:00 the story of Home to another one53:41 Writing darker songs while in a happy relationship55:55 Setting boundaries for mental health56:55 “Showed Me” as an interpolation58:37 Her mental health struggles and path to healing1:01:54 How her album locket Freed her1:03:25 the unlikely story of bittersweet1:05:30 what writing a song with strangers is like1:09:00 loneliness and missing out on a normal childhood1:12:00 Dealing with constant criticism and how she manages it1:12:47 Surviving the lowest point of her life1:16:30 how she currently manages her mental healthHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London and Jad SaadEdited by Jad SaadPost Production VFX by Pratik Karki Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s world builder builds worlds worldwide to make her own universe! Dark and whimsical meets bubblegum grunge when this artist broke out on the scene to create her own cult following. When doors didn’t open, she built her own. And The Writer Is……Melanie Martinez!In this episode, Melanie opens up about:• Materializing ideas and her entire creative process• Why she never approached music as a game• The reality behind shows like The Voice• How she built her identity before the industry caught up• Her philosophy on songwriting and the importance of your truth• Protecting your creative voice in a commercial system• Why being yourself is still the most important advantage• And much more…Hit the subscribe button and turn on notifications.Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials: @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro2:00 The Real Meaning Behind “Disney Princess”4:30 Introversion vs Performance6:00 The Magic of Creating and Materializing Ideas7:45 Her Creative Process — Titles, Concepts, and Staying Inspired12:00 The Songs That Defined Her Early Career12:48 Growing Up Writing — Her First Songs and Backstory16:45 World-Building and Creating a True Artistic Identity18:30 Rejection, Independence, and Dollhouse20:00 “Blind Dating” in the Music Industry24:00 Stage Fright and Early Creative Influences26:00 What She’d Tell Her Younger Self26:45 Advice for Artists Trying to Break Through27:30 Hitchhiking to The Voice — And What It Really Was30:00 The Reality of Music Competition Shows31:42 NMPA — Our Lead Sponsor This Season32:23 Splice33:00 Ross on Music Competition TV34:00 Performing Live and Managing Nerves36:00 Finding Herself Through Dollhouse37:20 The Story Behind Dollhouse38:00 Fighting for Her Creative Vision40:00 Where Her Ideas Come From42:00 How She Builds Albums and Story Arcs44:20 Writing Honestly Without Overthinking It45:00 What Songwriters Get Wrong About Meaning49:30 Are You Happy?51:30 The Priorities That Changed Everything54:00 Final Advice55:00 Portals57:47 Hades — A Dystopian World1:00:20 The Utopian Album to Come1:00:51 Her Favorite Songs on the Album1:01:50 The Story of “Weight Watchers”1:06:00 An Emotional Reflection — Her Message to Others1:07:30 Her Inspirations1:09:00 Social Media, AI, and Staying HumanHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London & Jad SaadEdited by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiWatercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s guest is one of the defining voices in modern pop — a songwriter, producer, and artist behind some of the biggest records of the last decade.His songs have been streamed billions of times worldwide.He came to Los Angeles to write for others.Instead, he became a globally identifiable artist — before fully becoming himself.Now, he’s building something that’s truly his.And The Writer Is… Charlie Puth!In this episode, Charlie opens up about:• His early journey• The moment “See You Again” came together, and why it still feels unexplainable• How early success shaped his career before his identity caught up• Why the best songs often come from discomfort, not control• The role of collaboration in pushing him beyond his instincts• Sessions with legendary artists — and what those moments actually feel like• The importance of staying human in an increasingly synthetic world• And much more…Hit the subscribe button and follow us on socials @andthewriterisEvery week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.A special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro2:46 Charlie Demos the Theme Song5:00 The “Mouth Phone” Trick7:00 His Secret Involvement in Dangerous Woman9:00 “Stay” — The Power of Collaboration (Justin Bieber, Kid Laroi)13:00 “Are You Where You Want to Be?”16:00 Where His Best Work Comes From16:53 The Story of See You Again20:43 Wiz Khalifa’s Defining 'See You Again' Moment23:02 When the Industry Didn’t Know What to Do With Him27:22 The Song No One Believed In (We Don’t Talk Anymore)29:52 Ross’s Philosophy on Sending Music31:04 The Song That Changed Everything34:09 Authenticity, Vulnerability, and Letting People In39:00 Why It’s More Important to Be Human Than Ever45:05 NMPA — Our Lead Sponsor This Season45:56 Splice46:38 Conflict, Collaboration, and Making the New Album51:11 Coffee With Kenny G and Michael McDonald55:39 Chris Stapleton's Songwriting Advice1:02:05 The Artists and Producers He Studies1:08:00 His Lowest Point1:31:51 Charlie Shares Drum SamplesHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London & Jad SaadEdited by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiWatercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s guest is one of the fastest-rising voices in modern country — a songwriter whose honesty, wit, and emotional precision have turned deeply personal stories into songs heard everywhere. She just became the 10th woman of the century to top the Billboard 200.Before the sold-out shows and chart-topping records, she was a college student playing small gigs with her dad and brother, trying to figure out where music might fit into her life.One honest song at a time, she began building a catalog that feels both timeless and unmistakably her own.Now, with a growing fanbase and a string of hits helping shape the sound of modern country, she’s writing the next chapter of her career in real time.And The Writer Is… Megan Moroney!In this episode of And The Writer Is… Megan opens up about:• The unexpected moment that pushed her toward learning guitar• Growing up around music and playing early shows with her family• The traumatic accident that jumpstarted her music career• Finding her voice in the Nashville songwriting community• Why honesty and humor are essential to her writing• How she stood out in early co-writes• And much more…Hit subscribe and turn on notifications.Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials: @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters0:00 Intro5:00 Moving to Nashville: The First Steps6:00 Working in the Music Industry Before Releasing Music7:00 The Advice That Started Her Career10:00 Growing Up Around Music in Georgia13:50 “I Went to School to Be an Accountant”16:30 Musical Theatre and Feeling Out of Place18:56 The Accident That Started Everything24:01 The Sorority Event That Led to Georgia Theatre32:25 Learning the Business of Music in School33:00 The Internship That Changed Everything35:00 Creating the Tennessee Orange Cover Art on Her Phone38:45 Writing Every Day and Building a Network in Nashville40:20 NMPA — Our Lead Sponsor This Season41:00 Splice41:45 The Story of Tennessee Orange45:50 How Influencing Helped Pay the Bills47:10 Megan’s Writing Process52:15 Exploring the Studio54:10 Working With Ed Sheeran58:42 A Full-Circle Moment With Kacey Musgraves1:09:00 The Story of “Beautiful Things”1:15:55 Rapid Fire1:21:26 Megan Gives the Podcast FlowersHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London & Jad SaadEdited by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiWatercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s guest is the frontman of one of the most defining bands of the 2010s — a songwriter whose voice helped shape an era of alternative pop that still echoes today.Before arenas. Before permanence. Before “Sweater Weather” became cultural shorthand.Now, after over a decade of hits, reinvention, and evolution, he looks back on the long arc of The Neighbourhood with clarity — and with honesty about what success did and didn’t solve.And The Writer Is… Jesse Rutherford of The Neighbourhood!In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Jesse opens up about:• Growing up in the industry before he understood it• The unlikely formation and endurance of The Neighbourhood• His journey through childhood acting, getting discovered, + losing his dad on the brink of success• The advice he’d give himself before it worked• And much more…Hit subscribe and turn on notifications.Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials: @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro2:09 I Never Wanted To Be Alternative
4:02 Why Thousand Oaks Produces Massive Bands7:39 Becoming a Child Actor at 6
8:35 “My Self-Worth Is Tied to Entertaining”
9:55 Discovered in a Movie Theater at 5
14:16 Reconnecting With His Dad Before He Passed
17:28 Success Without the Fame He Expected27:10 High School Metalcore Bands33:17 How The Neighbourhood Formed
36:06 The First Riff of “Sweater Weather”
40:00 Getting Discovered Online by Their Manager
44:23 His Manager’s Warning…47:20 Writing the Lyrics to “Sweater Weather”
48:42 Pop Writing Rules
55:23 Learning to Let Go of Instant Validation
59:32 Daddy Issues
1:02:30Watching Your Own Lyrics Affect Relationships
1:10:01 Why He Needs Alone Time1:10:23 Feeling Invisible, the “Chip Chrome” Era
1:11:17 Touring the Same Venues & The Plateau Feeling
1:12:31 Why Chip Chrome Became His Favorite Creative Risk
1:13:48 “You’ve Got to Get People to Look to Listen”1:16:00 Creative Direction as Identity Control
1:19:30 Self-Sabotage vs Reinvention
1:32:00 Band Brotherhood & Growing Up Together
1:36:00 Legacy, Impact & What Really Matters1:41:00 Advice to His Younger SelfHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London & Jad SaadEdited by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiWatercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s guest is a Grammy-winning songwriter, global pop architect, and one of the most quietly influential voices shaping modern music across borders.Before the world heard her voice, she spent years training inside the K-pop system — learning discipline, structure, and endurance long before recognition ever arrived. When the system didn’t know what to do with her, she pivoted. Slowly. Intentionally. And built a career that would eventually be heard everywhere.Now, as a songwriter whose work spans K-pop, pop, animation, and beyond — and as an artist stepping into her own voice — she represents a different kind of success: one built patiently, shaped by pressure, and defined by longevity rather than speed.And The Writer Is… Ejae!In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Ejae opens up about:The reality of the K-pop training system and what it actually teaches you about discipline and survivalRejection and why her voice didn’t fit the moment — and how that shaped her writingLearning to work alone after years inside a rigid systemHow songwriting became a safer, more powerful entry point than performingThe pivot that reframed her career and led to global successAnd much more…Hit the subscribe button and turn on notifications.Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials: @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro1:30 Early life & finding music6:10 Inside K-Pop training9:00 Ejae's writing process...28:00 Rejection from auditioning to be a K-Pop Idol... and $5 Karaoke training to pass.41:00 Ejae sings her first song41:37 Sponsor Spotlight: NMPA42:18 Sponsor Spotlight: Splice14:45 Discipline, pressure, and identity23:20 Being let go by the system26:19 The truth about the K-Pop system30:40 Rebuilding in isolation39:15 Discovering songwriting as power50:00 K-Pop's ultimate evaluation: Auditioning to debut50:37 Ejae's rejection and rock bottom... and the pivot that would change everything56:10 Global songs & delayed recognition1:00:00 How she wrote her first songs1:04:00 Writing her first song for film1:07:00 Writing 'Psycho' for Red Velvet at her first session1:13:00 K-Pop vs Pop music... And the reference to 'Psycho'1:14:00 K-Pop Demon Hunters1:20:00 The story behind 'Golden'1:26:00 The original 'Golden' voice memo...1:30:00 The process of co-writing the songs for K-Pop Demon HuntersHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London & Jad SaadCreative Directed by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiWatercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today's guest is a festival headliner, Grammy-winning songwriter, and the architect of a sound that accidentally changed the course of folk, country, and alternative music forever.From singing as a family around a kitchen table to headlining arenas with banjos and mandolins, Marcus Mumford built something no one saw coming — and has spent years learning not to get in his own way once the stakes got real.Now, as a solo artist and band leader, he's as honest about the creative process as he is about the pitfalls of ego, overthinking, and the quiet ways success can sabotage itself.And The Writer Is... Marcus Mumford of Mumford & Sons!In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Marcus opens up about:His theory of "catching" songs rather than forcing themHow Mumford & Sons structured equal ownership to stay togetherWhat Bob Dylan said to him that he wants tattooed on his bodyThe Pharrell moment that reframed his entire relationship to successWhy showing up — again and again — is the only way judgment is earnedAnd much more...Hit the subscribe button and turn on notifications...Every week we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials at @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro1:00 Desert Island Mix: Radiohead3:00 The Greatest Band of All Time?7:00 A Hilarious Story About Bob Dylan — His Songwriting Grandfather11:00 How Mumford & Sons Structured Equal Ownership13:35 How Mumford & Sons Writes Music17:00 Where Great Music Comes From18:35 His Songwriting Ethos: "Catching Fairies"22:00 Favorite Poetry and Getting Lost in Words Before Writing23:46 Childhood25:00 Growing Up in Church33:50 Why Drummers Make the Best Producers50:00 Testing Demos on the Road52:00 Working on His Solo Record58:00 The Empowering Pharrell Story1:03:00 The Chris Martin Story1:05:00 Rapid Fire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today's guest is a multi-platinum DJ, producer, and songwriter who turned personal devastation into one of electronic music's most emotionally resonant careers.From opioid addiction in high school to wilderness therapy at rock bottom, he rebuilt his entire life in Denver—sober, alone, and teaching himself music theory from scratch.Now 13 years clean, he's become a voice for mental health in a scene built on excess, collaborating with Jon Bellion, Halsey, Teddy Swims, and countless others to create music that connects survivors.His latest album, Odyssey, is a cinematic journey through heartbreak, recovery, and the sessions that saved his life.And The Writer Is... Illenium!In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Nick Miller (Illenium) opens up about:* Moving every two years as a kid and never having roots* Falling into opiates at 15 and hitting bottom by 2011* Moving to Denver alone and getting sober at 21* The Good Things Fall Apart session (and demo)* How music saved his life entirelyand much more...Hit the subscribe button and turn on notifications...Every week we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music.Follow us on socials at @andthewriterisA special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead Sponsor, NMPA— the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro1:00 Childhood and Moving Every Two Years5:00 Getting Into Music Through Tiesto's Album6:30 The Electronic Artist That Inspires Industry Musicians9:00 Getting Sober—His Rough Patch in 201110:00 Escapism and Addiction12:30 The Wilderness Program That Saved His Life16:30 Getting Lost in Music and How He Learned to Create17:30 Illenium's Roots18:00 Learning From Other Producers and YouTube20:00 Thinking of Sound as a Picture21:00 World Building and Finding His Brand… and His Purpose23:00 Ross Opens Up on How Music Saved Him24:00 The Personality Trait All Successful Creatives Have26:00 How He Popped Off31:00 Working With Unknown Artists and How He Picks Them33:00 How to Find Your Sound34:30 NMPA and Splice Midroll41:00 Touring—The Downs After a Show44:00 Good Things Fall Apart47:00 Collaboration in DJ Culture49:00 Why He Doesn't Chase Big Songs54:24 COVID1:13:00 Gaming on Tour1:17:00 Good Things Fall Apart DemoHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London and Jad SaadCreative Direction by Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik KarkiGuest Watercolor Art by Michael White Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today's guest is a Grammy-winning songwriter, producer, and performer, best known as one-third of The Smeezingtons and a foundational creative force behind Bruno Mars’ career. He has co-written and helped shape some of the most influential pop songs of the last two decades, including Just the Way You Are, Billionaire, Locked Out of Heaven, When I Was Your Man, 24K Magic, Nothin’ on You, and many more...And The Writer Is... Bruno Mars!In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Philip Lawrence tells his story in full—for the first time- How a $5 bus pass led to Bruno Mars- The hidden cost of early success- Real stories behind pop’s biggest records- The pivot that made everything 'click'- A breakdown at the peak—and the call that brought him backand much more...A special thank you to our sponsors…Our lead Sponsor, NMPA— the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us.And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period.Chapters:0:00 Intro4:00 “I Just Might” and Bruno Mars10:31 Childhood and Not Feeling Good Enough14:00 Early Career20:00 Leaving School and Auditioning for Disney26:00 The Disney Break Room: The Beginning of His Journey27:00 His First Session30:00 Meeting Steven Seagal34:00 Moving to LA37:09 Losing Everything He Had So Far39:00 Finding His Manager43:00 Finding His Way Through the Industry44:42 His Ego Death45:50 The Pivot That Really Started His Career46:50 Be Friends With All the Assistants47:20 NMPA and Splice48:45 How to Write for Radio49:30 Developing His Songwriting Ethos50:29 Spending His Last $5 to Meet Bruno Mars (Before He Was Bruno Mars)1:05:09 How Bruno Stayed on His Early Hook Placements1:07:28 The Story of Nothin’ on You1:09:20 Billionaire1:11:50 Just the Way You Are1:19:15 Talking to the Moon1:20:49 Ross’s CeeLo Story1:23:00 “F*** You” Was Not Supposed to Happen1:28:00 How Locked Out of Heaven Happened1:33:22 When I Was Your Man / Flowers (Miley Cyrus)1:36:50 Five Songs He Wishes He Wrote1:38:34 24K Magic1:40:36 His Breakdown at the Peak of Success1:48:45 The Comeback Phone Call With Bruno1:50:18 APT1:52:39 Advice for Songwriters + Rapid-Fire QuestionsHosted by Ross GolanProduced by Joe London and Jad SaadPost-Production VFX by Pratik Karki Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.