Episode 73: Special Guest, Jordan Ellis (Neurodivergent Design Lead)

This is Part 2 of the episode - do make sure you listen to Part 1 first as we pick up where we left off!Hi everyone, welcome back to the 21andsensory podcast! On this months episode I have the wonderful Meg Fatharly on as my special guest. Meg is a Cornwall-based artist who creates stunning embossed metal artwork, paper collages, art prints, keepsake cards and decorations for collectors, galleries and independent shops. Meg shares her work online @printcessmeg and her previous clients and collaborators include the V&A, Fortnum & Mason, the Natural History Museum, The Body Shop, Net-a-Porter and Toast.Megs links:Website: ⁠Megan Fatharly⁠Shop: ⁠Products⁠Stockists, Where to buy: ⁠Stockists Map⁠Upcoming Markets + Workshop Dates ⁠meganfatharly.com/pages/events-and-workshops⁠Instagram: ⁠Meg Fatharly Collage, Print, Words and Handmade Art (@printcessmeg) • Instagram photos and videos⁠⁠Ohh Deer x Meg Fatharly Collaboration 2026

Hi everyone, welcome back to the 21andsensory podcast! On this months episode I have the wonderful Meg Fatharly on as my special guest. Meg is a Cornwall-based artist who creates stunning embossed metal artwork, paper collages, art prints, keepsake cards and decorations for collectors, galleries and independent shops. Meg shares her work online @printcessmeg and her previous clients and collaborators include the V&A, Fortnum & Mason, the Natural History Museum, The Body Shop, Net-a-Porter and Toast.Megs links:Website: Megan FatharlyShop: ProductsStockists, Where to buy: Stockists MapUpcoming Markets + Workshop Dates meganfatharly.com/pages/events-and-workshopsInstagram: Meg Fatharly Collage, Print, Words and Handmade Art (@printcessmeg) • Instagram photos and videosOhh Deer x Meg Fatharly Collaboration 2026

Samantha Morgan is an autistic and ADHD impact and inclusion consultant, she is also a speaker and systems-change advocate working at the intersection of psychology, lived experience, and organisational practice. She is the founder of the neuro-accessibility consultancy IDInclusion. She is also the creator of the prominent parliamentary campaign Not Everyone Drinks. Her work focuses on dismantling systemic barriers and addressing structural disadvantages faced by neurodivergent, disabled, and socio-economically disadvantaged groups.Having experienced significant social, educational, health, and disability-related barriers firsthand, Samantha brings a unique combination of professional expertise, academic knowledge, and lived experience to her work. She helps organisations identify and reduce complex barriers across education, employment, housing, health, and community services.Samantha’s links:Not everyone drinks:Sign the petition: Sign the PetitionCampaign overview: NOT EVERYONE DRINKSBBC news article: HelloFresh suspends alcohol samples after campaignNot Everyone Drinks Instagram: (@not.everyone.drinks)Not Everyone Drinks on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Not-Everyone-DrinksID InclusionID Inclusion Instagram: Samantha Morgan (@id_inclusion)ID Inclusion Website: https://idinclusion.orgID Inclusion Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/ID-InclusionSamantha on LinkedinMy 21andsensory links:   @21andsensory on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/21andsensory⁠@21andsensory on TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.tiktok.com/@21andsensory⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠21andsensory on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/c/21andsensory⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠21andsensory Blog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠21andsensory.wordpress.com⁠⁠@21andsensory on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/21andsensory⁠

On today’s show* I have the wonderful special guest Chelsea Webster. Chelsea is many things - an autistic adhder, writer, activist, joy seeker & campaigner to name just a few. You may know her as The Joy Thief online through her instagram and substack publication.Writing from a disabled, neurodivergent, and working-class perspective, her work centers on how modern societal power systems steal individual happiness, and how people can actively reclaim it. Chelsea is the cohost of the AuDHD Unpacked Podcast & creator of The Autism Support Group which is a low-cost, autistic-led, and neuro-affirming virtual space designed to connect and validate autistic adults. We will of course be chatting about the many, many things Chelsea does!* trigger warning for some swearing and one reference to depression / suicidal thoughtsChelsea's Links:Chelsea's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/__thejoythief__/Deliver for Autism: https://www.instagram.com/deliverforautism/ Sign the open letter here: https://openletter.earth/open-letter-to-andy-burnham-autism-act-2009-and-the-urgent-need-for-autism-supportThe Autism Support Group: https://www.instagram.com/autismsupportgroup_ / https://buymeacoffee.com/autismsupportgroup/extrasSubstack: https://thejoythief.substack.com/archivePodcast InstagramEmily's Links:⁠⁠Illustration Portfolio⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Podcast⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Blog⁠⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Patreon⁠

On this month's 21andsensory Podcast episode I have the lovely Eliza Fricker on as my special guest. Eliza is an author & illustrator, and an advocate & consultant for PDA, autism and learning. She is the Sunday Times bestselling author of The Family Experience of PDA and Can't Not Won't.Eliza has published several books, including A Different Kind of Parenting and the acclaimed autobiographical Thumbsucker. We chatted about Eliza’s latest book ‘Could Try Harder’ which explores topics such as masking, girlhood, the hidden cost of being misunderstood and about what happens when a person is taught all their life to perform instead of belong.Eliza’s Links:Website: Missing the MarkSubstack Eliza Fricker's SubstackInstagram: @elizafricker_missingthemarkEliza’s booksMy 21andsensory links:Illustration Portfolio | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube | Blog | TikTok | X | ⁠Bluesky | Patreon

On this month's 21andsensory Podcast* I have Nathan Dunne as my special guest. Nathan was born in Brisbane, Australia and grew up in India. After graduating from the University of Sydney with the University Medal, he studied art history at Cambridge University and received a PhD from Birkbeck College, University of London. He has lectured at Harvard and Yale, and also worked for several years at Tate Modern. As a journalist and critic, he has contributed to many publications, including The Washington Post, The Atlantic, The Boston Globe, The Guardian, Slate and Artforum. Nathan is the author of 'When Nothing Feels Real', a memoir about depersonalisation which was published in June 2025. We have a really interesting chat about DPDR (depersonalisation and derealisation) and the onset for Nathan and how he has experienced it and Nathan and how he has experienced it and was diagnosed. We also discuss my own experiences and diagnosis of DPDR and how it affects me, then mention the great work that Unreal Charity do!*trigger warning for content covering self harm and mental health strugglesNathans links:Nathan’s website and book: ‘When Nothing Feels Real’ (https://www.nathandunne.com/)Nathan’s Guardian Article: 'I was enjoying a midnight swim. Then my girlfriend kissed me – and the nightmare began' (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jun/08/i-was-enjoying-a-midnight-swim-then-my-girlfriend-kissed-me-and-the-nightmare-began)Nathan's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/nathanadunne/)Mentioned:Unreal Charity (UK based) (https://www.unrealcharity.com/)What is DPDR? (https://www.unrealcharity.com/what-is-dpdr)Eye movement desensitisation and reprocessing (EMDR) information: https://emdrassociation.org.uk/Repetitive Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (rTMS) information https://www.unrealcharity.com/treatment-care)Maudsley Clinic Information (UK based) NHS South London and Maudsley (https://slam.nhs.uk/dissociative-disorders)Unreal charity blog (https://www.unrealcharity.com/blog)Joe’s Wilkins video of a clinic walkthrough: The Maudsley Depersonalisation Disorder Service: Q&A With Dr Claudia Hallett (https://youtu.be/5xvC-o5tnpM?si=sJ3Wo2S3L1Oe0Z2G)Emily’s links:Emily’s blog link to her experiences of DPDR, including her illustration: https://www.unrealcharity.com/blog/emilys-story-coming-to-terms-with-dpdr-ezjgz-cxwb2-lrp2x-4j56w-5ezjj)⁠Illustration Portfolio⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Podcast⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠Blog⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠ | ⁠X⁠ | ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠ | ⁠Patreon⁠

On this month's 21andsensory Podcast I have Dr Claire Bates as my special guest. Claire is an active academic researcher holding honorary research associate positions at the both the University of Kent and Manchester Metropolitan University. Claire is the Founder and Leader of Supported Loving which she founded in 2017 (having joined Choice Support in 2002) as a response to her PhD exploring relationships for adults with learning disabilities. It is a national network that promotes best practice with the goal of getting people with learning disabilities and autistic people the support they need, to enjoy the same sexual and romantic freedoms as everyone else.Through research, training, creating resources and accessible information on sex and relationships, Supported Loving wants to make love a reality for everyone.Supported Loving Website: https://www.choicesupport.org.uk/about-us/what-we-do/supported-lovingChoice Support Links:Website: https://www.choicesupport.org.ukLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/chsupport/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/choice_support/More info and research from Dr Claire Bates: https://socialworkwithadults.blog.gov.uk/author/dr-claire-bates/https://www.lsbu.ac.uk/stories-finder/claire-bates-alumna-supported-lovinghttps://arc-kss.nihr.ac.uk/resource-library/315-my-story-so-far-by-dr-claire-bates-supported-loving-lead-choice-supporthttps://learningmet.mmu.ac.uk/project/care-act-assessments-and-intimate-lives/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c989k7pggn7oMy 21andsensory links:⁠Illustration Portfolio⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Podcast⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠Blog⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠ | ⁠X⁠ | ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠ | ⁠Patreon⁠

On this month's 21andsensory Podcast episode I have the wonderful special guest Keira Edwards. Keira is an autistic journalist who is one of four BBC Sounds Audiolab Creators for 2025. BBC Sounds Audio Lab is an accelerator programme with one big ambition – to amplify next-generation storytellers and audio creatives. With a focus on under-represented UK voices and experiences, we help to transform fresh and distinctive ideas into narrative led podcasts whilst helping to grow their professional production skills.I’ll be chatting to Keira all about her podcast ‘It’s So Loud In Here!’ available to listen to now on BBC Sounds.Keira’s links:’It’s So Loud In Here’ hosted by Keira, available here on BBC Sounds: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0n03fcrKeira’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kredwards39An instagram post Keira did with BBC Sounds: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV5q81eisDM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZAKeira’s new TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livingneurodivergentMy 21andsensory links:⁠Illustration Portfolio⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Podcast⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠Blog⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠ | ⁠X⁠ | ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠ | ⁠Patreon⁠

On this month's 21andsensory Podcast I have special guest Cath on the show. Cath is a graduate from the University of York and the University of Oxford and their background is in student voice, with 5 years of experience across two universities. Cath is also the host and founder of the HE Enabled Podcast. HE Enabled is a show dedicated to sharing the experiences of disabled, neurodivergent, and those with long-term health conditions in UK Higher Education.HE Enabled links:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2njGJehfdhxHsC4bltg703?si=0eb76147113b4157Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/he-enabled/id1812688537…and you can listen to my episode (33) on the HE Enabled Podcast now!https://linktr.ee/henabledMentioned:Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/HEnabledLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/heenabledLuisa’s episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GgigL2NGsQuj6SZxojuaw?si=decc7611c7eb48f0Disabled Students UK Report: https://disabledstudents.co.uk/annual-disabled-student-survey-results-2025-published/Chill with You : Lo-Fi Story on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3548580/Chill_with_You__LoFi_Story/20-20-20 Digital eye strain article: https://www.healthline.com/health/eye-health/20-20-20-rule(For every 20 minutes spent looking at a screen, you should try to take a 20-second break to look at something 20 feet away).My 21andsensory links:⁠Illustration Portfolio⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Podcast⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠Blog⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠ | ⁠X⁠ | ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠ | ⁠Patreon

On today's episode I have special guest Lauren Melissa Ellzey also known as Autienelle.Lauren Melissa is an autistic self-advocate and author of three young adult novels, BOY AT THE WINDOW, STREAMLINE, and GIMMICKS AND GLAMOUR, which explore belonging for queer, neurodivergent youth of colour. Her advocacy work has crossed paths with New York University, Reframing Autism, Cripple Media, NeuroClastic, and the United Nations. She holds a Master of Science in Library and Information Science and resides in New York City with her cat, Tifa, and her dog, Farron.Lauren Melissa's links:Instagram: Lauren Melissa Ellzey (@autienelle) Lauren Melissa on Twitch Lifelines Grounding Stone: https://www.lifelines.com/grounding-stonesAutienelle websiteBook links:Boldstroke books: https://www.boldstrokesbooks.com/authors/lauren-melissa-ellzey-364Amazon link: Lauren Melissa Ellzey: books, biography, latest updateMy 21andsensory links:⁠⁠Illustration Portfolio⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Podcast⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Blog⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Patreon⁠