E260: How Founders Access Liquidity in Pre-IPO Companies

What does it take to build a sovereign wealth fund from scratch—and still outperform in some of the hardest markets in decades? In this episode, I talk with Peter Madsen, Chief Investment Officer of the Utah School & Institutional Trust Funds Office (SITFO), one of the most quietly sophisticated sovereign wealth funds in the United States. Peter shares how he went from running hedge fund portfolios in London to becoming the first investment hire tasked with modernizing Utah’s endowment. We break down SITFO’s philosophy on mean reversion, factor-based investing, public vs. private markets, active vs. passive strategy, and how a small CIO team competes with far larger institutions. Peter also explains why small caps are broken, how he shifted capital into private equity, why micro-VC funds outperform mega-funds, and how SITFO uses AI and collaborative models to underwrite managers in a world of overwhelming information.

How do you turn distressed opportunities into structural alpha—again and again—in an asset class most investors still misunderstand? In this episode, I’m joined by Philip Benjamin, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Colzen Capital, about how he built a differentiated pre-exit liquidity strategy that serves founders, executives, and investors simultaneously. Philip shares how his fourth-generation real estate background and the 2008 financial crisis shaped his investing worldview, how he applies a distressed-real-estate mindset to late-stage ventures, and why Colzen’s structured equity financing model creates downside protection, aligned incentives, and access to elite companies long before IPO. We also discuss portfolio construction, expected return math, founder psychology, and why this emerging asset class is quietly becoming massive.

What does it take to build four top-decile crypto funds in one of the most volatile asset classes on earth? In this episode, I talk with Rennick Palley, Founder of Stratos, about how he approaches crypto investing with a disciplined, mathematically grounded framework. We break down how Stratos constructs top-performing venture and liquid portfolios, why crypto is shifting from momentum-driven trends to fundamentals, how to size positions without blowing up, and why Bitcoin and gold are behaving the way they are in today’s macro environment. Rennick also shares his philosophy on decisiveness, conviction, and avoiding the costly mistakes investors make when they hesitate.

How do you build a $10B real estate empire by turning yourself into a media company—and why is vulnerability the ultimate competitive advantage? In this episode, I talk with Ryan Serhant, founder and CEO of SERHANT., one of the most influential real estate brokerages in the world and a pioneer at the intersection of real estate, media, entertainment, and technology. Ryan breaks down the turning points that shaped his career—from selling a $13M townhouse through YouTube a decade ago, to betting everything on social media before anyone believed in it, to building a fast-growing real estate ecosystem powered by content, authenticity, and scale. We dive into Season 2 of Netflix’s Owning Manhattan, the biggest highs and lows of his year, the reality of leading a thousand-agent organization, and why the future of real estate is screenless, human-centric, and powered by creators.

Why do the world’s best CIOs make investment decisions based on gut — not spreadsheets? In this episode, I’m joined by Julia Rees Toader, CFA, Founding Partner at PrinCap and former Global Head of Portfolio Strategy at Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Julia spent a decade advising sovereign wealth funds, pensions, private banks, and ultra-wealthy families on portfolio construction, risk management, and asset allocation. She shares the biggest lessons she learned from working with the world’s top CIOs — from why diversification rarely drives behavior, to where the smartest allocators take idiosyncratic risk, to how emotions secretly influence the most sophisticated investment decisions.

What does it take to build the most dominant FinTech investment bank in the world—starting from a $99 incorporation and a used laptop? In this episode, I speak with Steve McLaughlin, Founder, CEO, and Managing Partner of FT Partners, widely regarded as the leading investment bank in FinTech. Steve has personally closed hundreds of the biggest M&A, capital raise, and IPO advisory transactions in the industry—while pioneering a completely different approach to value creation in investment banking. We cover everything from the humble beginnings of FT Partners, to Steve’s philosophy of “never die,” to his groundbreaking thesis on AI, tokenization, defensibility in FinTech, and why he believes we’re entering a new era of trillion-dollar global financial technology companies. We also dive into the incentives model Steve built that has generated some of the largest fees in the history of investment banking—and why clients keep coming back.

What does it take to recruit the top 0.1% of engineers in the world — and why has talent become the ultimate constraint in AI? In this episode, I’m joined by Chris Vasquez, Founder & CEO of Quantum Talent, one of the most in-demand technical recruiting firms in the AI ecosystem. We discuss why elite engineering talent has become the core bottleneck in AI, how companies can actually attract S-tier builders, what founders get wrong about hiring, and why talent density—not headcount—is the strongest predictor of outcomes in today’s startup environment.

How do you balance power-law outcomes with real risk management while building a durable venture franchise? In this episode, I speak with Mark Peter Davis (MPD) — Managing Partner of Interplay, entrepreneur, author, podcaster, and one of New York’s most active early-stage investors. We discuss how Mark’s philosophy of investing has evolved over 20 years in venture, why VC psychology is so different from other asset classes, and how he manages for both outliers and consistency across vintages. Mark breaks down secondaries, constructing high-access portfolios, founder relationships, narrative risk, the role of operational support, and why grit compounds just like interest.

How do the best family offices consistently spot power-law opportunities and avoid the trap of “fake busy” work? In this episode, I’m joined with William (Bill) Brown, CIO of the Terrace Tower Group, about the lessons he learned working for billionaire Leonard Stern, how he helped evolve a legacy real-estate portfolio into a globally diversified family office, and what pattern recognition looks like across trades like the Big Short, crypto, and private credit. We discuss how Bill thinks about decision-making, mental models, productivity, and the mindset required to survive long enough to capture asymmetric upside.

How do you scale from a $10M first fund to managing over $1.5B — all in one of the most capacity-constrained asset classes on earth? In this episode, I talk with Eva Shang, Co-founder and General Founder of Legalist, about dropping out of Harvard, getting into Y Combinator, pivoting from legal analytics to litigation finance, and raising their first $10M fund long before they had any track record. We discuss why Legalist chose the fund model over the venture-backed originator model, how they deployed their algorithm to find late-stage cases at scale, why litigation finance is capacity constrained, and how Legalist expanded into adjacent strategies like bankruptcy, mass torts, law-firm lending, and government receivables.