
Ep. 07 Jon Mason
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John talks to Jon Mason, MD of Jollywise and creator of children's TV show Stan and Gran, about pressure, purpose, and refusing to do the work that makes you miserable.
A rambling conversation through varied topics such as mental breakdowns and kidney transplants, ADHD as a creative superpower and a curse, and what it actually takes to get a kids' TV show made over fourteen years of trying.
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