
Kool Krypto: The Story Behind The Anon DeFi Investor and What He's Betting On This Cycle
Kool Krypto is an anonymous DeFi investor and fund manager who's been in crypto since 2010.
In this episode, he shares his remarkable journey at just 13 mining Bitcoin, to discovering DeFi through ETHLend, and later landing a fund seeded by a prominent New York family office after a fateful poker game. We get a crash course on onchain options from someone trading millions on Derive, as he shares his very public trade setups for BTC and ETH, including the what went into his latest $3.5M Bitcoin call spread and his viral ETH call spread for March 2027 being copy-traded on Derive.
One of our best guests, and longest interviews ever. Meet an investor who's self-taught, and provides insights on his real trades, real positions, and real edge.
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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
2:25 - From mining BTC at 13, to trading, to fund manager
5:25 - The light bulb moment with DeFi and Ethereum
7:38 - The poker game that led to his fund
10:26 - How much is TradFi “in the arena” with DeFi?
14:17 - How Kool got into onchain perps: GMX, Gains, Hyperliquid
20:13 - Running a liquid fund, yield generation, and a little VC
23:28 - Why Kool doesn’t trade memecoins
28:01 - The DRV bull thesis
41:14 - Breaking down Kool’s $3.5M BTC call spread in Sept
45:58 - The benefit of Derive’s RFQ-powered trading
50:14 - AI agents are a massive tailwind for onchain options adoption
52:50 - Options trading tools: Derivatives Monkey, DeFiLlama, Claude
56:29 - Pros and cons of options vs perps
1:02:37 - Managing risk and closing options trades
1:05:35 - Forecasting a bullish October, and uncertain end of year
1:11:12 - His viral ETH call spread for March 2027 on Derive
1:17:38 - Kool’s bull thesis for KNTQ and its Hyperliquid L2
1:25:07 - Derive V3’s ability to list new options markets (ie LIT)
1:28:31 - What if Hyperliquid or Lighter launch options trading?
1:34:19 - Why Kool remains bullish on LIT
1:38:24 - Closing
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🔗 GUEST LINKS
► Kool Krypto on X: https://x.com/koolkrypto223
► Derive website: https://derive.xyz/
► Derivatives Monkey: https://www.derivativesmonkey.com/
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DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic hold ETH and BTC. DeFi Dad holds DRV. DeFi Dad and Nomatic were angel investors in Kinetiq's seed round.
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