Geoff Kellow - Do Markets Promote Virtue?

In this episode, Matt speaks with Reason senior editor Stephanie Slade about her new book Fusionism: Liberty, Virtue, and the Future of the American Right, and the growing divide between classical liberal conservatism and the post-liberal right in America.  References: Fusionism: Liberty, Virtue, and the Future of the American Right by Stephanie Slade (University of Notre Dame Press, 2026) https://undpress.nd.edu/9780268211523/fusionism/ Is There a Future for Fusionism? by Stephanie Slade (Reason, 2021) https://reason.com/2021/02/10/is-there-a-future-for-fusionism/ What Ronald Reagan's Fusionist Politics Teach Us About Liberty, Virtue, and Their Limits by Stephanie Slade (Reason, 2025) https://reason.com/2025/06/05/the-fusionist-politics-of-ronald-reagan/ Review: Frank S. Meyer's Fusionism Melded Classical Liberalism With Traditional Religion by Stephanie Slade (Reason, 2025) https://reason.com/2025/11/21/the-man-who-invented-conservatism/ Must Libertarians Care About More Than the State? by Stephanie Slade (Reason, 2022) https://reason.com/2022/03/19/two-libertarianisms/ Thanks to Our Patrons Thanks to our patrons, including Kris Rondolo, Amy Willis, and Christopher McDonald. To support The Curious Task, visit: https://patreon.com/curioustask

Matt Bufton speaks with Sean Speer about the observed return to "normie politics," and whether it's a trend that will stick. References: The politics of transgression versus the politics of normalcy by Sean Speer Thanks to our patrons, including Kris Rondolo, Amy Willis, and Christopher McDonald. To support the podcast, visit: https://patreon.com/curioustask

In this conversation from 2020, Alex Aragona speaks with Jason Sorens as he explores what it takes for a group to secede or gain independence from a state, and whether Alberta could leave Canada. References from Episode 32 with Jason Sorens: You can purchase Jason Sorens’ book on Secessionism on Amazon Canada  here You can listen to Jason Sorens’ appearance on the Danielle Smith show in Alberta here

In this conversation, Alex speaks with Graeme Thompson about the current economic tensions between Canada and the U.S., and the broader geopolitical contexts that surrounds those tensions. References 1. Graeme Thompson: Canadians No Longer Take Geopolitics Seriously—and Our Neglect Is Going to Cost Us (The Hub, 2024) https://thehub.ca/2024/03/22/graeme-thompson-canadians-no-longer-take-geopolitics-seriously-and-our-neglect-is-going-to-cost-us/ 2. Top Risks 2026: Implications for Canada (Eurasia Group, 2026) https://www.eurasiagroup.net/issues/Top-Risks-2026-implications-for-canada 3. Top Risks 2025: Implications for Canada (Eurasia Group, 2025) https://www.eurasiagroup.net/issues/Top-Risks-2025-Implications-for-Canada 4. Top Risks 2026: Canada (RBC Thought Leadership and Eurasia Group, 2026 — Graeme Thompson, contributor) https://www.rbc.com/en/thought-leadership/geopolitics-trade-and-the-economy/top-risks-2026-canada/ 5. Is the American Century Over? (Harvard Gazette) https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/03/america-still-at-top/ Thanks to our patrons, including Kris Rondolo, Amy Willis, and Christopher McDonald. To support the podcast, visit: https://patreon.com/curioustask

In this episode from 2021, Alex speaks with Geoff Kellow about the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin and whether they can help us better understand the connection between markets and virtue. References 1. “The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin” by Benjamin Franklin Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Autobiography-Benjamin-Franklin/dp/1508475091  2. “Benjamin Franklin and Adam Smith: Two Strangers and the Spirit of Capitalism” by Geoff Kellow Link: https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/50/2/321/134723/Benjamin-Franklin-and-Adam-SmithTwo-Strangers-and?redirectedFrom=fulltext  3. “The Wealth of Nations” by Adam Smith Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Wealth-Nations-Adam-Smith/dp/1680920960

In this conversation from 2023, Alex speaks with Rachel Lomasky about hot-button issues surrounding machine learning and artificial intelligence and the limitations and definitions of each, especially when it comes to ethical decision-making.  References 1. Rachel’s Articles, Law&Liberty  Link: https://lawliberty.org/author/rachel-lomasky/  2. “Artificial Intelligence (AI) vs. Machine Learning” by Columbia Engineering Link: https://ai.engineering.columbia.edu/ai-vs-machine-learning/  3. “Transcending Technopessimism” by Rachel Lomasky  Link: https://lawliberty.org/transcending-technopessimism/

In this conversation from 2024, Alex speaks with Matt Zwolinski about whether a truly "free market" exists, delving into concepts of freedom, coercion, and property rights. They examine critiques of markets from left-leaning thinkers, such as Robert Hale, as well as conservative perspectives, while discussing libertarian approaches to balancing coercion and freedom in market societies. Zwolinski also references his own Substack essays and reflects on ideas for minimizing coercion without dismissing critiques. References Matt Zwolinski's Substack, Bleeding Heart Libertarian Link: https://bleedingheartlibertarian.substack.com/ "Coercion and Distribution in a Supposedly Non-Coercive State" by Robert Hale (1923) Link:https://www.jstor.org/stable/2142367 "The Constitution of Liberty" by Friedrich Hayek Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Constitution-Liberty-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320847 "23 Things They Don’t Tell You About Capitalism" by Ha-Joon Chang Link: https://www.amazon.ca/23-Things-Dont-Tell-Capitalism/dp/1608191664 "The Myth of Ownership: Taxes and Justice" by Liam Murphy and Thomas Nagel Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Myth-Ownership-Taxes-Justice/dp/0195150163  "Tyranny, Inc." by Sohrab Ahmari Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Tyranny-Inc-Private-American-Liberty/dp/0593443462  "The Individualists: Radicals, Reactionaries, and the Struggle for the Soul of Libertarianism" by Matt Zwolinski and John Tomasi Link: https://a.co/d/5lCZvGS  Thanks to our patrons including: Amy Willis, Kris Rondolo, and Christopher McDonald. To become a patron, go to patreon.com/curioustask

In this conversation from 2021, Alex Aragona chats with Ross Emmett and Steve Slivinski as they explore the policies that can hurt businesses, and their work on the Doing Business North America index. References from Episode 80 with Ross Emmett and Steve Slivinski Ross Emmett and Stephen Slivinski are directors of the Doing Business North America project. Their 2020 report forms the basis of this episode and can be found at their website at this link. Here is a link to the Doing Business Report by the World Bank that was briefly mentioned in the podcast.  You can read the Philadelphia Inquirer’s article on the barriers of doing business in Philadelphia here. An in-depth explanation of the DBNA’s methodology and business categories is available for reading at this link. The DBNA Land Use index was inspired by The Wharton Residential Land Use Regulatory Index, which can be accessed here.  Here are the recent rankings of the DBNA report, which includes a comparison of the performance in cities in Canada, Mexico, and the United States (including the top five and five lowest-performing cities). You can interact with the data collected by DBNA at this link. Virginia Postrel’s book, The Future and its Enemies: The Growing Conflict Over Creativity, Enterprise, and Progress, can be purchased on Amazon Canada at this link. Here is an article on the Bootleggers and Baptists problem coined by Bruce Yandle.

In this conversation from 2025, Matt speaks with Ethan Nadelmann about vaping, e-cigarettes, and pouch nicotine alternatives to cigarettes within the broader context of health policy and the drug war. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding nicotine, harm reduction strategies, and how opposition to non-combustible nicotine mirrors past drug war policies. Ethan highlights international case studies, the role of public health organizations, and the influence of figures like Michael Bloomberg in shaping the global discourse - and misinformation - around alternatives to cigarettes. References "Thinking Seriously About Alternatives to Drug Prohibition" by Ethan Nadelmann https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/20027122.pdf "The Global State of Tobacco Harm Reduction" (KAC Reports) https://gsthr.org/ "High Price" by Carl Hart https://a.co/d/inDX5Gi  "Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness" by Richard H. Thaler & Cass R. Sunstein https://www.amazon.ca/dp/014311526X "Ending the War on Drugs: A Solution for America" by Dirk Chase Eldredge https://a.co/d/bIGQpJ6  Thanks to our patrons, including Kris Rondolo, Amy Willis, and Christopher McDonald. To support the podcast, visit https://patreon.com/curioustask.  

In this conversation from 2025, host Matt Bufton interviews historian Steve Davies about the political realignment happening across the Western world. Steve explains how traditional divisions in politics, such as socialism versus capitalism, have been replaced by a new axis centered on nationalism versus globalism. He critiques both "national collectivism" and "technocratic liberal progressivism" while discussing the implications for classical liberalism. The conversation also touches on the influence of leaders like Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, and Emmanuel Macron, and explores what the future holds for liberal ideas in a shifting political landscape. References "The Great Realignment: Understanding Politics Today" by Steve Davies (Cato Institute) https://www.cato-unbound.org/2018/12/10/stephen-davies/great-realignment-understanding-politics-today/ Steve Davies' talk at the IEA's THINK event https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GVMnQ4-_cQ "The Road to Serfdom" by Friedrich Hayek https://www.amazon.ca/Road-Serfdom-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320553 "Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy" by Joseph A. Schumpeter https://www.amazon.ca/Capitalism-Socialism-Democracy-Joseph-Schumpeter/dp/0061330086 "The Origins of Political Order: From Prehuman Times to the French Revolution" by Francis Fukuyama https://www.amazon.ca/Origins-Political-Order-Prehuman-Revolution/dp/0374227349 "Leviathan" by Thomas Hobbes https://www.amazon.ca/Leviathan-Thomas-Hobbes/dp/0140431950 "The Constitution of Liberty" by Friedrich Hayek https://www.amazon.ca/Constitution-Liberty-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320847 Thanks to our patrons, including Kris Rondolo, Amy Willis, and Christopher McDonald. To support the podcast, visit https://patreon.com/curioustask.