163: The Difference Between Wanting It & Working For It | Where Anti-Hustle Culture Gets It Wrong

Text a question to Victoria!Have you ever refused to believe “there’s nothing you can do”, especially when it comes to your health? If so, you’ll resonate with Victoria's guest, Robyn Spangler, registered dietitian nutritionist, founder of The Clear Skin Lab, and creator of Rayvi, a mineral-based hydration brand. After battling psoriasis for two years, Robyn took matters into her own hands and found healing through functional medicine. Now, she helps other women uncover the root cause behind their chronic skin issues and reclaim their confidence.In this episode, Victoria sits down with Robyn to unpack her own health journey that became the foundation for a thriving business, how vulnerability became her greatest asset, and why managing stress and prioritizing wellness are essential for long-term health. You’ll hear how she built two successful brands from scratch, what she’s learned about the emotional side of skin struggles, and her best advice for prioritizing self-care without guilt—especially for busy moms and entrepreneurs.Whether you’re struggling with your own skin journey, curious about functional medicine, or just need a reminder that your struggles can become your superpower, this episode will inspire you to bet on yourself and reclaim your confidence. Grab a snack and your drink of choice, and get ready to feel motivated and encouraged in your business and life.Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Shop Rayvi MineralsThe Clear Skin LabFree Course: How to Transform Your Skin from Breakouts to Blemish-Free in 6 Months or LessFollow Robyn on InstagramFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!If you’ve ever caught yourself waiting for the “perfect” moment to launch, post, or raise your prices, this episode is your wake-up call. You’ll hear from Victoria why waiting until you feel ready is the very thing holding you back and how taking imperfect action is what actually builds the confidence you’ve been waiting for. This episode is the reminder that progress doesn’t come from overthinking, it comes from doing.Victoria shares how to spot the sneaky ways perfectionism disguises itself as productivity, and how to replace it with momentum-building habits that grow your confidence, your business, and your impact. She continues to share real life examples from launching BrandWell without a perfect plan to her husband paying off debt one small step at a time. From these personal stories, you’ll see how action leads to clarity, courage, and ultimately, success.If you’ve been sitting on that website redesign, waiting to raise your prices, or convincing yourself you need to “feel confident first,” consider this your friendly nudge of encouragement. Confidence isn’t a prerequisite for action, it’s a result of it. So, hit play, take one small step, and start building the proof that you can do hard things. Because perfectionism won’t move your business forward… but progress will.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Visit BrandWell DesignsFollow BrandWell on InstagramFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“One of the biggest lessons that I've learned in my adult life so far is that growth doesn't ever feel easy.” –Victoria MarcouillierThis is a very special week as Victoria is turning 33 and the podcast is turning 5! In this special birthday episode, Victoria gets real about turning 33 and the reflections that come with stepping into a new season of life and business. After five years of juggling motherhood, entrepreneurship, and building BrandWell into a thriving design agency, she shares how shifting gears toward a boutique, higher-touch business model has brought both clarity and growing pains. The changes may feel uncomfortable at times, but Victoria opens up about why she sees this season as a sign of meaningful growth.As she looks ahead, Victoria shares the three main areas she’s choosing to focus on this year: getting comfortable with being uncomfortable, creating better organization for her calendar and her mind, and building BrandWell with a long-term vision. From hiring her first business mentor and surrounding herself with women further ahead, to creating more margin in her daily routines and finally building a CEO dashboard to organize big-picture ideas, she’s leaning into the discomfort of change while also setting herself up for greater clarity and peace.Victoria also reflects on how her mindset has shifted since her 20s, from chasing hustle and quick wins to embracing the slow, steady, and meaningful work of creating a legacy brand. With honesty and vulnerability, she shares how she’s learning to measure success less by monthly sales and more by profitability, sustainability, and consistency over time. Whether you’re in a season of hustle, growth, or reflection, this episode will inspire you to pause, take inventory, and start planting the seeds for your own long game.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Visit BrandWell DesignsFollow BrandWell on InstagramFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“Pretty brands don’t pay the bills. Branding and Website design without strategy? It may look nice, but they’re not going to convert.” –Victoria MarcouillierEver wonder how BrandWell came to be? Over the last six, almost seven years, Victoria has taken BrandWell from side hustle to a boutique branding and web design agency. For the first time ever, Lauren, BrandWell’s COO, is stepping in as host and is interviewing Victoria on how she got to where she is today! Victoria shares her entrepreneurial journey, from early side hustles to discovering her passion for website design and marketing. Inspired by her parents’ example and a chance opportunity, she reveals how those beginnings sparked the creation of BrandWell, a boutique branding agency designed to deliver quality, connection, and balance between business growth and family life.As Lauren guides the conversation, you’ll hear how Victoria strategically grew BrandWell without losing sight of its identity. From hiring contract designers to navigating team growth, she shares the real challenges and lessons of building a business with intention. You’ll also learn why she chose to keep BrandWell intentionally boutique, focusing on elevated client experiences over endless scaling, and how this decision shaped the company’s culture and success.Together, Lauren and Victoria dive into the heart of branding, why trust, empathy, and strong client relationships matter, and how investing in your brand early can completely transform your business. With practical insights on brand identity, polished online presence, and creating a client experience that lasts long after the project ends, this conversation will leave you encouraged, inspired, and ready to step boldly into your own entrepreneurial journey.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Visit BrandWell DesignsFollow BrandWell on InstagramListen to Season 9 Finale Q&A EpisodeListen to the Episode with Jessica MarxFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you deserve success just because you want it. Yes, you have to want it, but that is what's going to drive the work that's going to get you the thing that you want.” –Victoria Marcouillier Wanting success isn’t the same thing as working hard for it and that’s where so many entrepreneurs get tripped up. This episode may ruffle some feathers, but Victoria is challenging the rise of the anti-hustle movement and reminds you that perseverance, discipline, and resilience are what actually build lasting businesses.Unpack why today’s “manifest it” message can leave you discouraged, and how embracing a season of hustle can prepare you for the freedom and flexibility you dream about. Victoria also shares the truth most people don’t want to hear: business will feel hard sometimes, and that’s not a sign you’re failing; it’s a sign you’re growing.If you’ve been wrestling with whether you’re pushing too hard or not doing enough, this conversation will reframe the way you see your work. Press play and let Victoria encourage you to keep going, even when it feels tough, because the payoff is always worth the perseverance.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Visit BrandWell DesignsFollow BrandWell on InstagramFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“The goal is not balance. The goal is to be present where you're needed most.” –Victoria MarcouillierAnother girl has joined the BrandWell Designs girl gang! Over the summer, Victoria welcomed her third daughter, McKenna Roads, and this episode is all about her beautiful birth story. Within this episode, Victoria is sharing all the highs and lows, from navigating the switch from traditional OB care to a midwife group, to navigating labor without an epidural for some time, to the sweet and special moments of introducing her newborn to her big sisters. Victoria will also be answering questions that listeners submitted including how this maternity leave looked versus what she expected, how she navigated visitors during those early days, and how McKenna’s name came to be. This story isn’t just about birth, it’s about balance, priorities, and the courage to step back. Victoria reflects on what it’s been like to run BrandWell while fully embracing maternity leave, and how years of building strong systems and a reliable team have given her the freedom to be present with her family. She opens up about the surprising ease of letting go, the lessons learned in scaling a business that works without her, and why she believes the goal isn’t balance—it’s being present where you’re needed most.If you’ve ever wondered how to honor both your role as a mother and your role as a CEO, this episode will leave you encouraged, empowered, and reminded that building a business with intention gives you the freedom to savor life’s sweetest seasons that go by in a blink of an eye. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Listen to Episode 154 with Midwife, Skyler JacobsVisit BrandWell DesignsFollow BrandWell on InstagramFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“Be aware of your competitive landscape, but really focus in on that research and development, your own business, your own personal growth and what you want to do differently within your market.” –Jessica MarxScaling a business from six figures to seven isn’t about hustling harder, it’s about stepping fully into CEO leadership. To kick off this season, Victoria is sitting down with powerhouse business advisor Jessica Marx, a five-time Forbes Business Council member, top female coach recognized by Yahoo Finance, investor, founder of Tailored Premier, and mom of twins. With nearly 20 years of executive-level sales and leadership experience Jessica knows exactly what it takes to move beyond the $100K mark and confidently scale toward the million-dollar milestone.Together, Victoria and Jessica unpack the realities of scaling at each stage of business growth ($100K, $500K, and $1M+) and reveal the strategies that help women entrepreneurs shift from overwhelmed operator to visionary CEO. From avoiding common mistakes that stall progress, to building the right support team, to simplifying your offers for long-term growth, this conversation is packed with practical, proven advice.This episode is designed to help you scale strategically, lead with clarity, and create a business that fuels both revenue and freedom. Whether you’re chasing your first six figures or preparing to cross into seven, you’ll walk away with the tools, mindset shifts, and confidence to build a business designed for sustainable success. Get your notebook and pen ready, grab your coffee, and enjoy this motivating episode with Jessica Marx! Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Check Out Tailored Premier HereFollow Jessica Marx on InstagramListen to Millions Were Made PodcastVisit BrandWell DesignsFollow BrandWell on InstagramFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“If you have a business that cannot run without you, then you don't just have a business, you have a job.” -Victoria MarcouillierWhat if you could step away from your business without missing a beat? Join Victoria as she prepares for her third maternity leave and to enjoy the summer off with her girls. This season finale episode is packed with insights and strategies to ensure your business thrives independently, drawing from her personal experiences with maternity leave years ago. You’ll discover how to identify potential pitfalls and succeed in automating and delegating tasks, creating a harmonious blend of work and family life.Throughout this finale of The Branding Business School podcast, Victoria unravels the transformative magic of outsourcing. With six years of steering BrandWell, embracing her role as CEO meant letting go of wearing all the hats. From marketing to client management, Victoria shares how outsourcing crucial tasks has been the backbone of her business scalability and a shield against burnout. Even if outsourcing isn't your current path, Victoria offers creative solutions for enlisting support from your network, ensuring both business and personal well-being thrive.Prepare to be inspired by tales of resilience and adaptability. In the second half of this episode, Victoria dives into how her and her team have been navigating the recent rebranding challenges at BrandWell, which she calls, The Messy Middle. Victoria delves into the lessons learned from unexpected trials and the power of faith and flexibility. This episode is your guide to embracing chaos, finding peace in tumultuous times, and growing through every challenge. We’re ending Season 9 with a GOOD one, so throw in those ear buds, and press play!Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:BrandWell DesignsApply for Your Website Refresh for 50% Off!! – This offer is available for May 2025 onlyListen to Sound Mind on SpotifyJoin the Insider List, here!For show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“Your brand needs to convey luxury, so people understand why you're charging more.” -Victoria MarcouillierWhat if elevating your brand could skyrocket your revenue? Press play as Victoria revisits a fan-favorite discussion on crafting a luxury brand poised to command premium prices. This episode is a must-listen for those of you ready to raise your prices and match your brand's perception with its true value. Victoria shares actionable strategies to refine your brand messaging, ensuring it speaks the language of luxury and attracts the right audience. Whether you're contemplating a full rebrand or need to fine-tune certain elements, these insights will help you inspire confidence and convert inquiries into sales.As we approach the close of season nine, Victoria is not just juggling brand strategies but also preparing for the arrival of her third child. Next week’s season finale will be all about balancing business and family life, including her personal approach to maternity leave. Plus, there's a chance to get your burning questions answered in the Q&A!  Be sure to text the show using the link above to submit your question! Tune in and let's build that luxury brand together!P.S. Don’t miss out on BrandWell’s incredible website refresh offer, available only for the month of May!Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:BrandWell DesignsApply for Your Website Refresh for 50% Off!! – This offer is available for May 2025 onlyFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!

Text a question to Victoria!“Chasing “better” leads to burnout, but chasing “different” leads to freedom and a brand that holds pricing power.” -Victoria MarcouillierIf you’ve ever felt stuck in comparison—asking yourself how to compete with someone already doing what you want to do—you're not alone. Victoria shares her personal journey from a corporate web design agency to founding BrandWell, and how choosing to lean into what made her boldly, unapologetically different led to lasting brand clarity and freedom. In this short and sweet episode, you’ll learn why chasing “the best” leads to burnout, how authenticity creates stronger client connections, and what it really means to build a brand around your unique strengths. This episode is your reminder that clarity and connection—not competition—are what truly drives a thriving business.Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Find Your Differentiator with The Branding Business SchoolBrandWell DesignsFor show notes, head to www.thebrandingbusinessschool.com/thepodcast/ Show notes for episodes 1-91 can be found at www.brandwelldesigns.com/thepodcast/ Follow BrandWell on Instagram. Follow The Branding Business School on Instagram. Save on your first year of Honeybook using this link! Save 50% off your first year of Flodesk using this link! Get $30 off your first month of Nuuly using this link!Get up to $150 off your first box of Factor Meals using this link!