Michael Gove: Everything Makes Me Anxious

Welcome Back to The Apple and the Tree with our new host, Richard Coles! In Episode Four of this new series, we're in Central London to meet actress, author, podcaster and photographer, Hilary Whitehall and her daughter, documentary producer, Molly Wilkinson. In an intimate, revealing and free-flowing conversation, they talk about struggling with motherhood, the myth of “having it all”, the unreality of Social Media, having a very famous son/brother, ageing, miscarriage, staying out of the limelight, mother/daughter relationships and so much more. There is nothing off limits. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and Tik Tok @appletreepod. Do let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time. Presenter: Richard Coles Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onuchukwu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome Back to The Apple and the Tree with our new host, Richard Coles! In Episode Three of this new series, we're in Westminster to meet former Conservative Cabinet Member and current Editor of The Spectator, Michael Gove and his son, University student, Will. In a bright, pacy and free-flowing conversation, they talk about growing up with a Tory politician for a dad, the impact of Brexit on family and friends, the father/son relationship, anxiety, divorce, football, pop culture, fashion and so much more. There is nothing off limits. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and Tik Tok @appletreepod. Do let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time. Presenter: Richard Coles Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onuchukwu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome Back to The Apple and the Tree with our new host, Richard Coles! In Episode Two of this new series, we're in Hertfordshire to meet football coach, pundit and former professional footballer, Les Ferdinand and his daughter, actor and sports event consultant, Lauren. In a deep-thinking and free-flowing conversation, they talk about the cost of following your dream, childhood, celebrity, family, father/daughter relationships, loneliness, avoiding social media, playing for your country vs playing for your club, creating a character and so much more. There is nothing off limits. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and Tik Tok @appletreepod. Do let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time. Presenter: Richard Coles Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onuchukwu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome Back to The Apple and the Tree with our new host, Richard Coles! In Episode One of this new series, we're in St John's Wood in North London to meet TV presenter, radio host, author, and journalist Vanessa Feltz and her daughter, childhood anxiety therapist, Saskia Joss. In an emotional and free-flowing conversation, they talk about pregnancy, childhood, adventure, celebrity, family, mother/daughter relationships, therapy, grandchildren and so much more. There is laughter, there are tears and nothing is off limits. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and Tik Tok @appletreepod. Do let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time. Presenter: Richard Coles Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onuchukwu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you’ve been affected by anything you’ve heard on the show, call Marie Curie’s Support Line for free on 0800 090 2309. Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to suicide. You can also call Samaritans for free anytime on 116 123. Welcome back to Season Two of The Apple and The Tree presented by our new host, Richard Coles. In this episode, Richard meets Ben Jones and his mother, Liz Jones. They want to talk about Ben’s dad and Liz’s husband Brent who died of cancer in November 2015. They used Marie Curie’s phone services and found them hugely useful - both emotionally and practically. This special episode is sponsored by Marie Curie, the UK’s leading end of life charity. When someone you love is reaching the end of their life, and after they are gone, things change. You think about the lasting importance of that love you shared and the relationship you had with them. And that’s where Marie Curie comes in. For 75 years they’ve cared for people and their families when there is no cure – whatever the illness, whatever your question, Marie Curie are here to help They ease the pain of the person who is dying, protect their dignity and relieve the anxiety and stress of those close to them. At home, in hospices and over the phone Marie Curie nurses and expert teams provide support and care day and night. And the service is free. Sadly 1 in 4 people in the UK today die without the care they need.  If you or someone you love needs Marie Curie support, call 0800 090 2309. If you would like to donate to Marie Curie so they can care for more people at the end of life, please visit mariecurie.org.uk   Get in touch: Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Apple’). You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod Presenter: Richard Coles Producer Rob Fitzpatrick Editor: Chelsey Ranore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd and Lunar June A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is sponsored by Cancer Research UK. In this special episode we’re in Horsham in West Sussex to meet Livi Deane and her mum, Sarah. Aged just 12, Livi was diagnosed with a rare retinoblastoma, becoming only the second person ever in the UK to have the disease that was over the age of five. Desperate not to lose her eye, Livi went through 16 rounds of chemotherapy and spent a year in remission, but that didn’t stop the cancer and her eye was removed when she was 14. She has spoken about falling into depression following her surgery and as a young teenager Livi said she felt, “very alone, always ill and a few nasty things were said about my appearance.” But she battled on, grew stronger in herself and began adjusting to life with a prosthetic eye. Livi has spoken about living with impaired vision and a prosthetic eye. She now regularly shares her experiences with children experiencing the same disease and is an ambassador for The Childhood Eye Cancer Trust. Recently Livi has said, “I feel beautiful without my prosthetic eye and believe others deserve to feel beautiful too.” She’s modelled for Vogue Portugal, Apple and Primark and feels strongly about “normalising body differences.” Her goal, she insists, “is to prevent bullying and help people feel confident in their own skin.” For more information on the work Cancer Research UK is doing to beat cancer in children and young people, go to cruk.org/children-and-young-people To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod. Let us know about your family stories! Presenter: Vogue Williams Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Chelsey Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd and Lunar Jane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Tunbridge Wells in Kent we meet Jamie and his mum Jacqui. Jamie is an online fitness instructor and global body-building competitor who wanted to talk to Jacqui about his decision to revert to Islam and marry a muslim woman. From a young age Jamie had obsessive tendencies, he hated school, became a heavy drinker and even spent time in prison in Thailand. Jacqui wanted to know if he recalled his youthful mania for magic tricks, how terrified she was when she discovered his body-building drugs and how welcome she was made to feel by Jamie’s wife’s family. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod. Let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time! Presenter: Vogue Williams Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd and Lunar June A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Waltham Abbey in Essex we meet Julie, her son Tomor and his elder sister, Leonora. Julie’s late husband Bill arrived in the UK as a refugee from the former Yugoslavia and was a kind and loving father who, over time, became gripped by a gambling addiction which ultimately caused him to take his own life in a terrifying way. Leonora, Tom and Julie have all been through counseling since his death and want to remember the good and bad times and talk about their desires for their future without him. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod. Let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time! Presenter: Vogue Williams Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd and Lunar June A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Putney, South West London, we meet mum Patricia and her daughter Jasmine, who was adopted from China as a baby. Jasmine has always wanted to ask Patricia, who suffered the loss of her birth daughter at a very young age, about how and why she decided to pursue a transracial adoption and how she feels about the process now. Patricia, who suffers from ataxia, a disorder that affects coordination, balance and speech, wanted to ask Jasmine about how she feels as an adult - and a carer - in this blended family. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod. Let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time! Presenter: Vogue Williams Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd and Lunar June A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Mitcham in South London we meet Ashley and his mum, Denise. Ashley is hugely proud of his mum, a woman who, for years, has worked tirelessly to help her community even through her cancer diagnosis and subsequent mastectomy. Denise split with Ashley’s dad when he was very young and Ashley wants to talk about the times he felt unsafe without a male parent in the house and explore why Denise still thinks of him as her “golden child” even now he’s in his 30’s. To get in touch just email [email protected]. You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod. Let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time! Presenter: Vogue Williams Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick Editing: Tony Onu Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd and Lunar June A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices