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Ep 201 - Inside the Hurricanes with Clark Laidlaw

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The rugby is just the price of entry. Hurricanes head coach Clark Laidlaw explains what he believes actually wins: a curious, competitive mindset that turns into daily habits, and a coaching group willing to be coached itself.


Laidlaw's path runs from rugby development in Taranaki, to the Hurricanes as an assistant, to relegation with London Irish, to head coach of the All Blacks Sevens through COVID and an Olympic final, and back to 15s. Now he's the Super Rugby champion coach. Jay Carter, who has spent time with both Laidlaw and the Chiefs, asks what the Hurricanes do differently.


Laidlaw shares:

  • Why he brings in outsiders like coach developer Rusty Earnshaw and Christian Penny, and the bumps and bruises that came with Rusty's first visit
  • The difference between coaching (the X's and O's) and leading (how intentional you are with relationships and environment)
  • The mistake that cost the Hurricanes a sticky patch last season, when they didn't take senior players with them early enough
  • How being bottom of the table after five games taught him that "nearly there" doesn't mean you'll get there next year
  • How his response to a player turning up late has changed, including a story about leaving two starters at the hotel
  • Why he's focused on "going backwards to come forwards" and resisting what he calls the disease of more


You'll also hear about new private ownership, the demands on young professional players, how he thinks about leadership groups, and the three words he'd want players to use to describe him.


Most teams chase more plays and more rugby things. This conversation makes the case for refining what you do well, building the right people around you, and being slow to react to small problems. It matters if you coach, lead a team, or want to see what sits behind a championship environment.


Perfect for coaches, leaders and anyone curious about high performance culture. It's a candid, tangent-friendly chat with a coach who admits he got plenty wrong along the way.

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