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130. Fire Walking, Spiritual Bypassing & the Ethics of Small Spiritual Business

13.5.2026
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In this episode of ShamanTalk, Rhonda McCrimmon sits down with licensed clinical social worker, ritualist, and certified firewalk master instructor Sarina Harz-Tolbert for a wide-ranging conversation on the intersections of therapy, ceremony, and embodied spiritual practice.

They explore fire walking as a tool for transformation, why somatic and body-based healing often achieves what years of talk therapy cannot, and how to spot spiritual bypassing in yourself and your community. They also get into the ethics of running a small spiritual business, discussing pricing, accessibility, integrity, and how to stay true to your path when the online marketing machine is pulling in every direction.

Sarina shares her work as a wilderness rites-of-passage guide, trauma-informed therapist, and co-teacher of the Warrior Goddess framework, and the two friends dig into creating genuinely inclusive ritual spaces, the power of direct communication, and why ritual belongs in everyday life, not just on the ceremonial calendar.


You can find Sarina @thewarriorgoddessrevolution on Instagram

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