They're Getting Away with Everything

The International Criminal Court (ICC) was created to try the worst crimes in the world – war crimes, genocide, crimes against humanity. Established in 1998 following the deadly civil war in Yugoslavia and genocide Rwanda, the ICC has indicted 63 suspects. Each of court’s 125 member states is obligated to arrest these suspects should they set foot in their territory, but the indictments of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are testing the member states’ resolve. And now the US is threatening to sanction the court. Can the ICC survive 2025? Richard Dicker: Founding Director of the International Justice Program at Human Rights Watch Elizabeth Evenson: Director of the International Justice Program at Human Rights Watch

When Waheed Abu Naeem’s students approached him last spring to tell him there were settlers and Israeli military approaching their school, he confronted them. Things escalated and a settler began shooting at the school’s courtyard, killing one of the students. Waheed would later learn that his brother, Jihad, was also killed by the settlers when rushed to the school after hearing news of the attack. Waheed is not alone. Human Rights Watch found that attacks by settlers in the occupied West Bank are increasingly driving the forced displacement of Palestinian communities, with dozens at risk of erasure. Israeli authorities are arming, funding, and granting impunity to the violent settlers responsible for these escalating deadly abuses. Middle East and North Africa Researcher Sarah Sanbar walks host Ngofeen Mputubwele through the history behind the rise of settler violence in Palestine’s West Bank. Madees Khoury details how the encroaching violence has impacted her own business and community in Taybeh. Waheed Abu Naeem: English teacher, Al-Maghayer Madees Khoury: Operations Manager at Taybeh Brewing Company Sarah Sanbar: Researcher, Middle East and North Africa Division at HRW

As Global Program Director at Human Rights Watch, Lama Fakih knew attacks would likely reach Beirut as tensions escalated in the US/Israeli war with Iran. But she never thought the attacks would hit close to home. About 50 years ago Lama’s grandparents got an apartment in a building in the southern suburbs of that city. Her dad grew up there, and Lama lived there too when she was very young. Much later, Lama and her husband got married in that apartment, brought her children home for visits, and gathered with family regularly. This week, host Ngofeen Mputubwele speaks to Lama about the loss of her home, how she experienced these human rights abuses following years of reporting on them, and what international law has to say about the attacks on Beirut. Lama Fakih: Global Program Director, Human Rights Watch Clive Baldwin: Senior Legal Adviser, Human Rights Watch

The gig economy has exploded across the globe. Whether organizing food deliveries or providing domestic labor, the companies behind these apps are making billions by using algorithms to assign tasks, set pay, evaluate performance, and even fire workers. For the companies that built these systems, the model promises high rewards and low risk. But for workers, like Apraham, Agnes and Graeme, they’ve rewritten the rulebook, shifting the dangers of doing business onto their shoulders while limiting their control over earnings and working conditions. This week, host Ngofeen Mputubwele speaks to gig workers and researcher Léna Simet about the pitfalls of these platforms, and what governments can do to help. Apraham Urfalian: Uber driver in Lebanon Agnes Mongera: Platform worker in Kenya Graeme: Bicycle courier in Scotland Léna Simet: Senior Advisor on Economic Justice, Human Rights Watch

In late 2024, the international football association (FIFA) announced that Saudi Arabia would host the 2034 World Cup. This means the world’s largest sporting event will be taking place in a country where the government imprisons scores of activists and dissidents for peaceful criticism, denies women fundamental civil and human rights, and cheats migrant workers out of their pay, after treating them brutally. There’s a word to describe countries notorious for human rights abuses hosting major sporting events: “sportswashing.” Host Ngofeen Mputubwele traces the history of sportswashing from the 1936 Olympics in Nazi Germany to Saudi Arabia’s hosting of the World Cup. What can fans and athletes do to fight back against sportswashing? Listen to find out. Minky Worden: Director of Global Initiatives at Human Rights Watch John Hird: Co-founder of Newcastle United Fans Against Sportswashing

Now that Maung has learned about the history of the Rohingya community, he begins working towards an escape route. He hopes to leave the refugee camp and get an education so that he can advocate for his community. But his freedom of movement is limited and educational resources are scarce. This week, host Ngofeen Mputubwele charts Maung’s journey out of the refugee camp in Bangladesh and into New York City. But even when Maung, and other refugees like him, settle into their new homes, the human rights abuses they have suffered linger. How is mental health impacted not only by past atrocities, but also by the current systemic mistreatment of refugees? And with refugees becoming political flash points across the world, what can be done to support refugee communities around the globe? Maung Sawyeddollah: Agent of Change, Rohingya Muslim Philippe Bolopion: Executive Director, Human Rights Watch Nadia Hardman: Researcher, Refugee and Migrant Rights Division at Human Rights Watch Emina Ćerimović: Associate Director, Disability Rights Division at Human Rights Watch Spyros Orfanos: Director, New York University’s Postdoctoral Program in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis

Now that he’s arrived in Bangladesh, Maung finds himself stuck in an in-between. He’s safe from the violence he faced in his home state of Rakhine, Myanmar, but there are restrictions on his freedom of movement, limiting his education and leaving him to grapple with the history that brought his community to the world’s largest refugee camp. In this episode, host Ngofeen Mputubwele traces this history. Within the story of ethnic cleansing and apartheid enacted upon the ethnic Rohingya community, other big themes rise up. Witnesses and experts recount the role that social media played in Maung’s trajectory, and point to other communities facing this crisis across the globe. Maung Sawyeddollah: Agent of Change, Rohingya Muslim Matt Schissler: Lecturer in history and anthropology at the University of Melbourne Htaike Htaike Aung: Director of the Myanmar Internet Project Kaamil Ahmed: Journalist for The Guardian; author of "I Feel No Peace" Shayna Bauchner: Researcher, Asia Division at Human Rights Watch Maria Ressa: Nobel Peace Prize laureate; co-founder and CEO of Rappler

When Maung and his family, his neighbors, strangers, cross the border from Myanmar into Bangladesh, they are officially refugees. But there’s no rest for the weary, and the hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees escaping to Bangladesh have to build a refugee camp for themselves. As Maung helps his family assemble a temporary shelter, a sort of shadow city starts to rise up around them. Almost a decade later, Maung’s family is still in Cox's Bazar.This week, Maung, other refugees and experts take listeners through a tour of life in the world’s largest refugee camp and life as a refugee more broadly.Maung Sawyeddollah: Agent of Change, Rohingya MuslimChinda Precious: Nigerian refugeeJohannes van der Klaauw: Former representative at the United Nations High Commissioner for RefugeesTamanna Tiku: Urban DesignerMausi Segun: Executive Director of the Africa Division at Human Rights WatchNadia Hardman: Researcher, Refugee and Migrant Rights Division at Human Rights WatchKyle Knight: Former Associate Director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Program at Human Rights WatchBelkis Wille: Associate Director of Crisis & Conflict division at Human Rights Watch.Emina Ćerimović: Associate Director, Disability Rights Division at Human Rights Watch

When anti-Rohingya sentiment turned into gunshots in Myanmar in 2017, 16-year-old Maung Sawyeddollah was forced to flee. But what do you do when you’re forced to leave your home? Where do you go? This week on The Great Unrooting, host Ngofeen Mputubwele asks how migrants get from here to there. What happens if you need medicine while you’re traveling or are living with disabilities that make traveling difficult? What challenges do migrants face as they make these strenuous journeys? This week, we hear from people around the world who have faced these questions. We hear about Maung’s mom, who fled while pregnant. Her story, alongside accounts from HRW researchers, paints a picture of resilience and bravery of the migrants who risk everything in pursuit of safety. Maung Sawyeddollah: Agent of Change, Rohingya Muslim Nadia Hardman: Researcher, Refugee and Migrant Rights Division at Human Rights Watch Emina Ćerimović: Associate Director, Disability Rights Division at Human Rights Watch Lindsay Mputubwele: Doula and child-birth educator Chinda Precious: Nigerian refugee Hanaa Rahimi: Former Afghan policewoman sharing her story under alias

Maung Sawyeddollah grew up in a small town in Myanmar where, for years, life felt ordinary. That was before the rumors began. Social media fueled sectarian division, communities turned against each other. Then the soldiers arrived. It was a balmy night in August 2017 when Maung first heard the sound of gunfire. His family was forced to make an impossible choice: stay in the home they love or embark on a perilous journey to Bangladesh. They grabbed a few belongings and fled.Through Maung’s extraordinary story—from fleeing for his life in Myanmar to attending the prestigious New York University—this episode explores the moment Maung’s family made the fateful decision to abandon their home, and the heart-wrenching decisions millions of people face when the world they know becomes unlivable.The Great Unrooting begins with one life, and opens onto a global story of displacement, resilience, and hope.Maung Sawyeddollah: Agent of Change, Rohingya MuslimMausi Segun: Executive Director of the Africa Division at Human Rights WatchNadia Hardman: Researcher, Refugee and Migrant Rights Division at Human Rights WatchKyle Knight: Associate Director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Program at Human Rights WatchBelkis Wille: Associate Director of Crisis & Conflict division at Human Rights Watch.