Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with Shannon Eno and John Cummins
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Tell me one thing that happened this week!
Housekeeping
Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance Saturday!
On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks
FilmLogic: Armed and Dangerous
Backlog Challenge Round 2 Results:
We're letting the community decide which games we play for round 2 of our backlog challenge!
Sam
Grabbed by the Ghoulies (Xbox)
Glory of Heracles (DS)
Zak and Wiki: the quest for Barbaros Treasure (Wii)
Shannon
Secret of Mana (SNES)
Kirby and the Amazing Mirror (GBA)
Harvest Moon (SNES)
John
Final Fantasy
Grandia II
Drill Dozer
Dan- Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon (DS)
The Price Is Retro -
If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess
Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value
Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300
Shan's list
Sam's list
John's List
Flightsy's Spot the Fake
Show Topic - 4
Dungeon Crawlers!
What is a dungeon crawler anyway?
-loosely, focus on a single dungeon - though perhaps with interconnected zones. And exploring it while powering up a character/party and gathering loot, going deeper each time.
Inherited term from a scenario type in tabletop rpgs.
The term has been used somewhat loosely of any game that has a dungeon though.
Games:
Wizardry Series- probably the main archetype
-hard to understate the impact these games had on RPGs generally, especially in Japan.
Rogue - better known for other elements
Eye of the Beholder (SNES)
Arcana
Neverwinter Nights (AOL 1991 - not the later one so much)
Mado monogatari (technically Puyo Puyo is a spinoff of this)
The Bard's Tale Trilogy
Many (but not all?) Might and Magic games
Early Elder Scrolls games (Arena and Daggerfall)-Dungeon Crawls with basic overworld content in Arena that grew in Daggerfall, but retained the Dungeon Crawling
Princess Tomato 🙂
Etrian odyssey - keeping this old-school style genre alive- and developing it further
-Retro in the truest sense of the word.
The interesting aspects here (IMO):
Party Customization
Mapping/exploration - another layer of progression
Challenging/strategic turn based battles
EO made mapping a gameplay mechanic
More:
Shining in the darkness
Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Persona Q Labyrinth
https://dungeoncrawlers.org/games/ (ngl I have very little familiarity with almost all of these)
It's kind of like shmups, a really niche old genre that is rare these days, but has a following.
These days, mainstream RPGs almost always opt for the "open world" approach.
Games I have seen called dungeon crawlers but question that nomenclature:
The Legend of Zelda
Diablo
Enter the Gungeon
Hades
Mystery Dungeon
Arx Fatalis
Slay the Spire
Darkest dungeon
X-Men Legends and Ultimate Alliance
Community Couch
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