Deprogramming From Sex Work Ideology with Céline Manon Martin

Elly Arrow speaks to Liz Ortenburger, CEO of SafeNest (Nevada's largest NGO serving domestic violence victims) about porn's impact on youth and how adults can begin to talk to kids about a subject, that makes even a lot of us deeply uncomfortable and unable to know where to begin, but which is essential to help prevent and identify child abuse of all kinds.Links:SafeNest.org: https://safenest.org/Follow us:Facebook:⁠ ⁠@RedLightExposé⁠⁠⁠Instagram:⁠ @RLE.podcast⁠TikTok: ⁠⁠@redlightexpose⁠⁠Twitter: ⁠⁠@RedLightExpose⁠YouTube:⁠ @RedLightExpose⁠Disclaimer:All the information provided through Red Light Exposé is published in good faith and solely for general information and educational purposes. It is not in any way intended to serve as a substitute for professional advice. The views represented in this episode do not necessarily represent the views of other Red Light Exposé hosts or the group as a whole. Red Light Exposé makes no representations or warranties of any kind or in any form, whether express or implied, about the completeness, timeliness, reliability, availability, validity, suitability, and accuracy, or guarantee that there will be no losses, errors, and omissions with respect to the information or content contained in any episode.

Sybil Jo and Elly Arrow discuss Stück, a co-working-space-meets-BDSM-dungeon, which just opened in London. It marks a new extreme in terms of BDSM's invasion of the public sphere, but certainly isn't unprecedented considering all-time-high rates of BDSM practices in young people's sex lives, the increased normalization of fetish gear worn in public, and the proliferation of sadistic practices in the commercial sex trade, e.g., men paying for women on OnlyFans to sexually humiliate themselves and harass the public in turn. The debate that stops at individual conceptualization of consent misses the immense harm done to women and society at large, who deserve to be front and center in the discussion.Sources:Hot desking: Can it ever be right to combine sex and the office? ⁠https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/dalston-coworking-space-cafe-sex-stueck-klub-verboten-b1302939.html⁠In Dalston, new venue Stück recasts intimacy, work and community: ⁠https://www.wallpaper.com/travel/stuck-dalston-london-playbody-studio⁠ Vice reporting about Stück: ⁠https://www.vice.com/en/article/stuck-london-co-working-kink/⁠Stück Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stueck.ldn⁠How sex workers are fightingback against online deplatforming ⁠https://www.huckmag.com/article/sex-workers-and-the-kink-community-are-fighting-back-against-instagram-deplatforming⁠Fetish parties under threat after council gets tough over nudity licensing rules ⁠https://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2022/04/fetish-parties-under-threat-after-council-gets-tough-over-nudity-licensing-rules/⁠Karl Verboten shares he has been raided before: ⁠https://groove.de/2026/09/09/karl-verboten-ueber-den-neuen-kink-club-rosa-in-berlin-pankow-wir-perversen-haben-einen-eigenen-dresscode-ein-eigenes-vokabular-und-eigene-werte⁠Death and Breath Play: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/p/Da3spwfDY5M/?img_index=1⁠Playbody: The club night bringing connection back to the dancefloor: ⁠https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/68847/1/playbody-club-night-reconnecting-dancefloor-design-autumn-2025⁠Bruce LaBruce wants to bring fucking back to theatres: “We’re all cruising tonight” ⁠https://plastermagazine.com/features/bruce-labruce-the-visitor-film-review-sex-party-club-night/

For most trick-or-treaters, the Witch is a campy Halloween character, symbolizing nothing more serious than sweet treats and fantasy magic. Even those familiar with the history of Europe’s infamous “witch hunts,” typically view these figures as backwards, superstitious nonsense, a mass hallucination, a relic of “primitive” “dark” times, before humanity was lifted out of religious madness into rational modernity. But for over a century, modern feminists have publicly recognized the historic and symbolic significance of the women called Witch. From resistance to colonial empire, to reproductive freedom, these women are at the center of every rebellion against tyranny and exploitation. Maligned, scoffed at, erased – She cannot be forgotten, for wherever there is a fight for liberation, she springs up again and again, in innumerable shifting forms: From obstinate traditional midwives to TikTok tarot readers.Elly Arrow and Sybil Jo will spend this special Halloween episode exploring and honoring the historic, mythological, and contemporary manifestations of this mysterious figure – Who, no matter how many jeers or stones they throw at her, seems to be reborn, generation after generation, wherever women are found.Sources:"Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation" by Silvia Federici. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/403846.Caliban_and_the_Witch"La Sorcière (Satanism and Witchcraft)" by Jules Michelet. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2266220.La_Sorci_re"Woman Hating" by Andrea Dworkin. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/209333"Woman, Church and State" by Matylda Joslyn Gage. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39995„The History of Psychiatry“ by Franz G. Alexander & Sheldon T. Selesnick. https://archive.org/details/historyofpsychia00alex/page/n5/mode/2up"Witchcraft" by Pennethorne Hughes. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2289817"The Hammer of Witches: A Complete Translation of the Malleus Maleficarum" by Heinrich Kramer https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6196797

Elly Arrow and Sybil Jo are joined by Emelee Dahla to trace her life story through young adult internet stardom, grooming by men and “choice feminist” rhetoric into exploitation on OnlyFans, and her ultimate self-liberation from the porn industry and toward real feminist analysis and advocacy. We touch on the many myths surrounding OnlyFans among both supporters and critics, the psychological and cultural effects of digital objectification, the perils of internet culture, censorship of feminist discourse, and what to do in the face of it all.Find more of Emelee Dahla's work and her social media here: emeleedahla.carrd.co

Elly Arrow and Savannah Severn are joined by screenwriter and director Diana to dive into the first two seasons of the Netflix hit show "Bridgerton" and its treatment of the pseudo-Regency era marriage market, how the female and male characters navigate its perils respectively, and the ideas transported about love, sex(ual exploitation), patriarchy, racism, and class oppression, in due course.Sources:Creator Chris Van Dusen on the inspiration for Bridgerton: https://www.out.com/print/2022/3/25/how-bridgerton-was-inspired-its-gay-creators-west-hollywood-family Bridgerton earned Netflix $350+ million dollars: https://www.thewrap.com/media-platforms/streaming/bridgerton-streaming-revenue-netflixFor more pop culture review, see our episode "Pretty Woman Is Darker Than You Remember".To hear more from Diana, listen to our episode "A Look At Film Censorship, Sex Scenes and Intimacy Coordinators"

In Part 1 of "Inanna's Journey through the Underworld", we used a 5,000-year-old myth to explore how the sexual exploitation industry strips victim-survivors of all their worldly possessions, leaving us bare - materially, mentally and spiritually - and in a state of living-death.In this part 2, we learn how the Queen of Heaven and Earth, with the help of her loyal friends, is saved from the clutches of Death. But living through trauma is only half the battle. In addition to ridicule and apathy from society's power structures, we carry painful demons from our time in The Great Below. Sybil Jo and Elly Arrow discuss the work that is needed to support victim-survivors as we re-enter society.

Andrea Heinz interviews Céline Manon Martin about the mutual vulnerabilities that led them into the sexual exploitation industry, the impact of entertainment media on entering prostitution, and Céline’s previous pro-industry advocacy. Together, they reflect on how much they’ve changed in their understanding of self-love and self-respect, and how collective liberation should replace self-abandonment and hyperindividualism.Links:Céline Manon Martin's website: https://gracetosee.com/celine/Céline Manon Martin's Substack: https://gracetosee.substack.com/Céline Manon Martin's Twitter: https://x.com/celinemanon_Follow us:Facebook: ⁠@RedLightExposé⁠⁠Instagram: @RLE.podcastTikTok: ⁠@redlightexpose⁠Twitter: ⁠@RedLightExposeYouTube: @RedLightExposeDisclaimer:All the information provided through Red Light Exposé is published in good faith and solely for general information and educational purposes. It is not in any way intended to serve as a substitute for professional advice. The views represented in this episode do not necessarily represent the views of other Red Light Exposé hosts or the group as a whole. Red Light Exposé makes no representations or warranties of any kind or in any form, whether express or implied, about the completeness, timeliness, reliability, availability, validity, suitability, and accuracy, or guarantee that there will be no losses, errors, and omissions with respect to the information or content contained in any episode.

After last week's stream going over serial-killer and pornographer R. C. Hörsch's live trajectory and how law enforcement, the art world and the porn industry kept not seeing what was right in front of them, this conversation between Sybil Jo and Elly Arrow is focused on the women whose lives were cut short by his brutal misogyny, their families quest for a semblance of justice and why we deify literal serial killers and erase their victims.Sources:She was just a kid when a strange man tried to abduct her in 2009. This week, she learned it was Raymond Horsch.– https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/horsch-missing-women-ashley-rivera-20260924.htmlConsumed by anger: Inside the 1985 psych profile of Raymond Horsch – https://www.inquirer.com/news/raymond-horsch-olney-missing-women-psych-exam-20260903.htmlRaymond “R.C.” Horsch | Interview with Sadistic Pornographer and Possible Serial Killer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMMkgwh2z4QMan linked to United States ‘house of horrors’ lived in Canterbury town – https://www.odt.co.nz/canterbury/christchurch/man-linked-to-united-states-house-of-horrors-lived-in-canterbury-town-v1hp2mw8How a pornographer’s violent fantasies blurred fact and fiction as cops searched Olney house for missing women – https://www.inquirer.com/news/a/raymond-eugene-horsch-olney-philadelphia-missing-women-history-20260802.htmlMurder or art? Women linked to Philly ‘House of Horrors' describe R.C. Horsch – https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/investigations/murder-or-art-women-linked-to-philadelphia-mystery-house-describe-r-c-horsch/4466682/Horsch speaks on the validity of “sex work” – https://x.com/JLRINVESTIGATES/status/2101028844413301104 Unknowing Ray Horsch – https://www.therialtoreport.com/2026/09/13/ray-horsch-2/?utm_The Olney House Files Unsealed – https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-olney-house-files-unsealed--6322073

R.C. Hörsch was a career criminal, pornographer, and prolific misogynist. He is also suspected of committing at least 5 femicides. Sybil Jo and Elly Arrow investigate how and why someone like Hörsch was positively received in parts of the art world and in the porn industry, and why, conversely, he did his best to legitimize filmed and photographed sexual exploitation of women.Sources:Consumed by anger: Inside the 1985 psych profile of Raymond Horsch – https://www.inquirer.com/news/raymond-horsch-olney-missing-women-psych-exam-20260903.htmlRaymond “R.C.” Horsch | Interview with Sadistic Pornographer and Possible Serial Killer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMMkgwh2z4QMan linked to United States ‘house of horrors’ lived in Canterbury town – https://www.odt.co.nz/canterbury/christchurch/man-linked-to-united-states-house-of-horrors-lived-in-canterbury-town-v1hp2mw8How a pornographer’s violent fantasies blurred fact and fiction as cops searched Olney house for missing women – https://www.inquirer.com/news/a/raymond-eugene-horsch-olney-philadelphia-missing-women-history-20260802.htmlMurder or art? Women linked to Philly ‘House of Horrors' describe R.C. Horsch – https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/investigations/murder-or-art-women-linked-to-philadelphia-mystery-house-describe-r-c-horsch/4466682/Horsch speaks on the validity of “sex work” – https://x.com/JLRINVESTIGATES/status/2101028844413301104 Unknowing Ray Horsch – https://www.therialtoreport.com/2026/09/13/ray-horsch-2/?utm_source=chatgpt.comThe Olney House Files Unsealed – https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-olney-house-files-unsealed--6322073

The presence of armies makes commercial sexual exploitation spike; however, the attitudes soldiers show toward prostituted women and women in pornography easily and frequently affect their treatment of other women, too, especially those who fight alongside them. In this livestream, Sybil Jo and Elly Arrow go into prominent cases of male military personnel attacking their female colleagues and the ways in which, in some settings, women soldiers are actively offered as a reward to imperialist and revolutionary male combatants alike.Sources:Lawsuit over sexual assault aboard Navy transport ship dismissed as workers’ comp issue: https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-08-25/lawsuit-workers-comp-sexual-assault-navy-ship-22658787.htmlExclusive: Navy Sexual Assault Survivor Says a Workers' Comp Claim Just Ended Her Fight for Justice: https://www.military.com/exclusive-navy-sexual-assault-survivor-says-a-workers-comp-claim-just-ended-her-fight-for-justice “Sex Worker Safety Advice” Reveals the Violence of Prostitution: https://ellyarrow.wordpress.com/2022/02/27/sex-worker-safety-advice-reveals-the-violence-of-prostitution/ Another example of “Sex Worker Safety Advice”: https://ellyarrow.wordpress.com/2018/12/15/pro-prostitution-group-tampep-normalizes-trafficking-and-tells-women-to-not-get-raped/ Prostitution: When Jumping Out the Window turns into a work accident: https://efarbeitsrecht.net/prostitution-wenn-der-sprung-aus-dem-fenster-zum-arbeitsunfall-wird/ Murder of LaVena Johnson: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-mar-08-na-women-soldier-suicides8-story.html Murder of Vanessa Guillen: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/vanessa-guillen-netflix-documentary-army-murder-b2225781.html The girlbossification of global warfare: https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/61170/1/the-girlbossification-of-global-warfare-israel-idf-palestine USA Army Violence Prevalence: https://www.sapr.mil/reports Germany Army Violence Prevalence: https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/937820/d52d8f040a6e1e3d1d4226497e498e42/jahresbericht_2022_pdf-data.pdf State and Non-State Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Against Women and Girls During the Northern Irish ‘Troubles’: A Systematic Review: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/15248380251366267 Confessions to intimate violence: FARC testimonies to sexual violations in the Colombian conflict: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/14616742.2024.2355316 Sexual Violence In Sierra Leone's Civil War: 'Virgination", Rape and Marriage; https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/en/publications/sexual-violence-in-sierra-leones-civil-war-virgination-rape-and-m/