
Pascal Magne on Occlusal Veneers and Material Selection – PDP221
30.4.2025
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Can composite really outperform ceramic in the right case?
Do you know when to choose an inlay over an onlay?
What makes occlusal veneers so effective — even at just 0.6 mm thickness?
After years of anticipation, Dr. Pascal Magne finally joins Jaz Gulati on the podcast for an episode packed with adhesive dentistry gold. They dive deep into occlusal veneers, material selection, and why indirect composite may be the best-kept secret for worn, root-filled molars.
They also unpack the full bonding protocol step-by-step—from air abrasion and IDS to silane application and cementation with preheated composite. Whether you’re doing full rehabs or composite repairs, this episode is your go-to guide for smarter biomimetic dentistry.
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Protrusive Dental Pearl: After applying silane, don't just let it evaporate—let it react for 30 seconds, then air dry, and crucially, use a heat source (like a hairdryer) for 60 seconds to activate it properly and achieve optimal bond strength. This enhances the effectiveness of silane and significantly improves the bond strength of indirect restorations like composite or lithium disilicate.
Key Takeaways:
Occlusal veneers can be as thin as 0.6 mm.
Indirect composite is often a superior choice for restorations.
Proper bonding protocols are crucial for successful restorations.
Focusing on strengths rather than weaknesses is key in dentistry.
Conservative approaches in dentistry can preserve tooth structure.
The vital tooth is always preferable to a non-vital tooth.
Composite resin has wear properties similar to enamel.
Occlusal veneers provide excellent protection for compromised teeth.
Porcelain veneers have long-term durability compared to composites. The evolution of composite materials has led to better options for restorations.
Zirconia is strong but difficult to adjust and bond effectively.
Immediate dentin sealing is crucial for successful bonding and patient comfort.
The Dahl principle allows for minimal preparation in certain cases.
Composites can be as effective as ceramics when used correctly.
Understanding the properties of materials is essential for successful restorations.
Thin occlusal veneers can be successfully bonded with proper techniques.
Need to Read it? Check out the Full Episode Transcript below!
Highlights of this episode:
0:00 Introduction
02:52 Protrusive Dental Pearl
04:42 Dr. Pascal Magne on His Current Focus
10:16 Understanding Cusp Coverage and Material Choices
15:48 Conservative Approaches in Dentistry
23:16 Unsupported Enamel: Can it Still be Reinforced?
28:05 Occlusal Veneers Indications
37:00 Material Selection: Composite vs Ceramic
01:24:42 Outro
Referenced Studies - all below are available to download on Protrusive Vault in Protrusive Guidance
Effect of immediate dentine sealing on the aging and fracture strength of lithium disilicate inlays and overlays
Short-fiber Reinforced MOD Restorations of Molars with Severely Undermined Cusps
Ultrathin CAD-CAM glass ceramic and composite resin occlusal veneers for the treatment of severe dental erosion
Strains in the marginal ridge during occlusal loading
Antagonist Enamel Wears More Than Ceramic Inlays
Outcomes of resin-bonded attachments for removable dental prostheses
Performance of ceramic laminate veneers with immediate dentine sealing
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If you enjoyed this episode, don’t miss A Geeky Discussion on Adhesive Onlays – that’s PDP161!
This episode is eligible for 1.25 CE credit via the quiz on Protrusive Guidance.
This episode meets GDC Outcomes B and C.
AGD Subject Code: 250 OPERATIVE (RESTORATIVE)DENTISTRY (Indirect restorations)
Aim: To provide clinicians with evidence-based guidance on occlusal veneer indications, material selection, and conservative restorative protocols—emphasizing the role of adhesive techniques and biomimetic principles in long-term success.
Dentists will be able to -
1. Differentiate between inlays, onlays, and occlusal veneers, and select the most conservative option suitable for each clinical scenario
2. Make informed decisions on material selection based on occlusal anatomy, antagonist material, and long-term clinical performance.
3. Assess the biomechanical behavior of composite vs ceramic materials, including their effect on stress distribution and enamel wear
Click below for full episode transcript:
Teaser: An onlay is always going to make the tooth stronger than an inlay. However, the chances of catastrophic fractures with an onlay are bigger than with an inlay. And I know it's not unanimous, some of my colleagues, they don't like the fact the composite has a lower elastic modulus. But again, you have to understand a non-vital tooth is a handicapped tooth.
Teaser: So the damping affect the damping behavior of this occlusal volume of composite in our studies actually proved to protect the remaining tooth structure at the level of the root. With the occlusal veneer, there's no need- Element of biomimetic dentistry is to say that the restoration should be allowed to fail in order to protect the tooth. Zirconia is the opposite.
Jaz's Introduction:It finally happened. Finally got Dr. Pascal Magne on the podcast. If you remember episode 100, I was in Edinburgh at the BACD in the queue to get my book signed by Dr. Magne. And I said to him, please, will you come on the podcast one day? And that day finally came a few years later than I wanted, but we finally made it guys.
And let me tell you guys, you are in for a treat. We're talking about occlusal veneers. How thin can you go? Like think of a lower molar that is worn and is spawn into dentine possibly because erosion and attrition and you don't have much space and you don't really wanna prep so much, we can go as thin as, let's say 0.6 millimeters.
And what if I told you, you can do it in indirect composite? And that's probably in many cases, the preferred choice. At the end of the podcast, we discuss the exact protocol of bonding and indirect composite which actually is also gonna help you if ever you're doing a composite repair, how to bond new composite to old composite.
Now we covered so many geeky adhesive and restorative themes, like why not use zirconia? Why is indirect composite a superior choice, especially for your root filled molars that need cuspal coverage? Which is interesting because I have been doing lithium disilicate for many years thinking that composite was like a cheaper option, was like a second rate option.
Actually, Dr. Pascal Magne says that if it was his tooth, he'd want indirect composite. Well, you are in the right place to find out why he said that, and also why we should not be so aggressive in capping cusps.
Hello, Protruserati. I'm Jaz Gulati and welcome back to your Favorite Dental Podcast. If you're returning again, thank you so much for being a Protruserati. If you are new to the podcast, you picked a really good one. I'll tell you what all our podcasts are awesome, thanks to the wonderful guests we have on, so please don't forget to hit that subscribe button if you like what you hear or see today.
Dental PearlEvery PDP episode, I give you a Protrusive Dental Pearl, and today's one is of course inspired by Pascal Magne and an adhesive protocol tip. The tip is when it comes to the silane step, that step is so critical in whether you're bonding an indirect composite or an indirect ceramic such as lithium disilicate. Once you've done the correct surface preparation of your indirect restoration, so that's different for composite, which you'll hear at the end, and that's different for ceramic.
And once you get into the silane stage, here's what you don't do. You don't just apply silane and leave it on the side to let it evaporate. No, you want to let it react for 30 seconds, then you want to air dry it. But then you want to use something like a hair dryer. You need to use some hot air to achieve the perfect layer and the perfect chemistry of your silane.
And this surface preparation with silane, such a critical step that it makes a huge difference in the bond strengths you can achieve. So makes your guys that you are air thinning your silane, and then you're using some sort of a heat source to achieve that optimal layer. And you'll hear about the the geeky justifications and the steps for this towards the end of this podcast.
Do not go anywhere, guys. You're gonna enjoy this a lot. And remember, our episodes are eligible for CE. This episode is worth 1.25 CE credits, and we are a PACE approved education provider on our platform, which is called Protrusive Guidance. The website for that is protrusive.App. That's www.protrusive.App. You'll have access to over 350 hours of CE.
This includes the podcast episodes, but also our mini courses and on demand webinars, which are thoroughly enjoyed by our members. So we'll remind you at the end how to claim CE for this episode and all the others. Let's now join Dr. Pascal Magne to dive deep into occlusal veneers. I'll see you in the outro.
Main EpisodeDr. Magne, we had that mentorship session about, I don't know, six weeks ago or something, right? And I didn't tell you this at the time. But I only slept for two hours that night 'cause my baby was up and he was very sick the whole night, right? And I was exhausted the whole day. But I knew that I was speaking to you and my wife could tell that there were the energy levels.
As our call was coming, my energy levels were rising again. And it was so great to spend that hour and a bit with you. And it was so great to see you in London last week. You're an absolute inspiration. You're a man who needs no introduction. Like you, your legacy is so much in academia.
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