The Mother of All Interface Battles

Brian, Troy and Alex dig into the undoing of Jensen Huang: the spy angle, the idiocy of sexy time at corporate events and the second-order effects of the toppling of such a powerful figure. Huang has 60 direct reports and no succession plan, so where was the board, and who could step in as interim CEO? If Nvidia stumbles, who replaces it, and what role does the government play? They also talk about how insular tech has become, now that it has its own parallel media ecosystem, and about a new Bari Weiss-era correspondent’s Trump interview. Then Chris Cillizza, formerly of the Washington Post and CNN and now independent, joins to talk about why some Washington scandals stick.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesFollow Chris:* Substack - So What* YouTubeChapters:* 02:11 Jensen Huang Scandal Breakdown* 18:20 AI Power Politics and Tech Backlash* 38:51 Tech Media Terrarium Backlash* 46:09 Product Manager Job Market* 48:08 Trump Interview* 52:48 Good Product* 54:05 Chris Cillizza on Washington Scandals* 01:11:40 Performative Power Bros* 01:13:25 Ross Douthat Interviews Trump* 01:19:13 Why Nuance Beats Scoops* 01:22:50 Going Independent and Monetizing* 01:39:40 Prediction Markets’ Role in Journalism* 01:42:33 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

Democrats take Congress, Texas flips, and the Trump-era “terrarium” that media, finance and tech climbed into starts to crack.Winners: the AI decels, after voters rejected data centers in state after state, and media, which took in a flood of political ad money.Losers: the tech right, Elon Musk and his half billion in spending, Andreessen Horowitz, the manosphere and prediction markets.Then they get into why AI agents feel too proactive and too clunky, and Anthony DeRosa joins to talk about the PvA Field Notes Media Lab, his Frontier AI tracker, and his election night test pitting prediction markets and personal agents against the news desks calling races.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 02:26 Paris Reality Check* 07:35 Midterms Winners and Losers* 31:14 AI Agents and Media Lab* 39:59 Dashboards And Agents* 42:26 Frontier And Election Tools* 50:04 Monetizing Media Beyond Ads* 01:05:55 AI Adoption* 01:17:25 Good Product* 01:22:46 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

Troy and Brian dig into what happens when AI stops imitating Odie as the overly eager helper and starts owning the workflow, the coordination and the organizational memory, why a 100-year-old law firm unraveled when its high-leverage people walked, and what Microsoft’s voluntary buyouts say about the managerial class. Then CJ Gustafson of Mostly Metrics breaks down Anthropic’s S-1: the growth, the revenue per employee, and where the costs got tucked away.Plus: Time and Mobian serving ads to AI agents, Axios selling data feeds to client LLMs, cognitive mercantilism, Semafor and the conflicts baked into every media model, Obama vs. the Cheesecake Factory, Serbia’s student movement shows how a decentralized protest movement can wrest power and Troy’s ode to the Starbucks breakfast wrap.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 01:57 Updates From Out and About* 09:53 AI Podcasts And Law Firm Collapse* 18:21 PVA Media Lab Update* 22:28 Claude Duet And Corporate Bloodbath* 50:54 Cognitive Mercantilism* 58:28 Media Model Conflicts* 01:05:54 Cheesecake Factory* 01:10:17 Serbia Student Uprising* 01:16:11 Good Product* 01:19:17 Inside the Anthropic S-1 with CJ Gustafson* 01:41:10 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

We dig into Claude Duet, Meta’s Muse and the rest of the new assistants that suggest before you ask, why Muse’s retention numbers look shaky, and what happens to businesses built on friction, from Chase’s no-yield checking to Amazon’s purchase insurance pop-ups. The conversation turns to what gets lost when you get the answer without asking the question, from the mathematicians reeling after OpenAI’s proof drop to Ethan Mollick’s dark factory vs. twilight factory framing in his new book. Plus: Semafor at four, Boston.com goes paid and the dwindling of free ad-supported news, and the virtues of a distinctive accent in a flattened world.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 00:52 Rackets and Reality* 04:35 Answers Without Questions* 18:45 Frictionless Future Concerns* 33:47 Cointelligence and Delegation* 35:42 Slop vs Skill Building* 40:09 Paywalls and Platform Wins* 45:15 Modern Media Models* 55:51 Good Product* 01:03:19 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

An anonymous developer used Claude to ship open-source clones of Adobe’s big five, then Word, Excel, Keynote, AutoCAD and Figma within days, and the lesson is that software is a business of pure margin with less moat than anyone thought. Packaged software is going the way of packaged media, and the mathematicians are finding out what that feels like.Plus: Alexandr Wang as Zuckerberg’s main character, Silicon Valley’s perennial claim that AI will kill advertising, Netflix cutting HR and legal, friction and the fate of Regina, Apple’s $300 home hub, and deodorant.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 00:47 The Car Is Back* 04:01 Claude vs ChatGPT Personalities* 06:45 ArtCraft and the SaaS Apocalypse* 20:01 Headless Software and Moats* 37:39 Meta Cheeky Pint* 45:41 Friction Kills Towns* 52:44 Good Product* 01:00:58 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

This week we dig into how much of the economy is built on friction, and what happens when AI agents start removing it. Also: why students are so gloomy about AI, Vanity Fair’s New Establishment list and who gets to confer legitimacy on tech, a vibe-coded Adobe replacement, the race for the new home page, and Troy comes around on Kia.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 01:25 Vanity Fair and Tech Legitimacy* 07:46 Students Fear the AI Future* 27:28 Software Moats and Copycat Culture* 34:28 Friction Economy Disrupted* 41:37 One Agent New Homepage* 49:28 Distillation China* 54:48 Good Product This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

Brian, Troy and Alex debate who will control the interface to your life, whether convenience will steamroll privacy concerns, and how the winner gets to collect a toll on everything you buy. Plus: Silicon Valley’s makeover of government, what comes next for Condé Nast, and why other industries are about to find out what being a publisher feels like.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 00:48 Meet Linda the AI* 04:53 America.gov Launch* 15:55 Agents Negotiate Calls* 20:21 Personal Agents Arms Race* 36:28 Interface Shift and Business Models* 57:18 Publishers and Condé Shakeup* 01:07:49 Good Product* 01:09:53 Field Notes Corner This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

Brian and Troy dig into Muse, Meta’s push to make AI assistants mainstream, and why the next big platform battle is over the interface itself. They also look at what this shift means for publishers, commerce and media companies that increasingly risk becoming commodity suppliers to someone else’s agent. Later, Breaker's Lachlan Cartwright joins to sell $60 hats and talk CNN, CBS News, Puck, RedBird and what consolidation looks like when the old media business is being forced to adapt to a very different distribution system.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 01:24 Boston Globe Viral Win* 05:01 Field Notes Media Lab Build* 09:28 Muse and Agentic Future* 29:20 People Become Data Providers* 45:05 Go Big Media Merger* 51:42 Redbird Buys Puck* 01:10:39 Good Product* 01:19:09 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

Brian and Troy map the whole cast: who's the wizard, who's the arms dealer, who's the schoolyard bully, and who gets stuck playing the citizens of King's Landing who never asked for dragons. Plus: whether the frontier is worth being on, what happens the first time someone dies, Macklemore getting bounced off the Ed Sheeran tour, the rip-off economy, and a spirited defense of yogurt.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 02:45 AI Characters and Shifting Alliances* 28:48 Public Trust and the China Question* 33:55 Frontier Labs Go Political* 39:44 When AI Breaks Things* 45:42 Field Notes Mixtapes* 49:46 Quick Hits* 01:08:33 Good Product* 01:11:54 Credits This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

They debate warnings from Anthropic researchers that AI could kill humanity, whether anyone can credibly calibrate those risks and whether a visible catastrophe will be required before governments act. They also examine Meta’s Muse and the shift from chatbots and specialized agents toward personal assistants that could swallow large parts of the app economy. Meanwhile, AI may not be causing mass unemployment, but it is weakening entry-level white-collar work and the apprenticeship system young people need to get started. Underlying it all is the disappearance of cognitive struggle as phones and AI make it easier to avoid concentration, boredom and difficult thinking. Plus: the iPhone Fold, the analog revival, Ivan Lendl’s Mitteleuropa wisdom, podcast mixtapes and Troy’s missing car.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young’s People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey’s The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer’s Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter* Join our community - PvA Field NotesChapters:* 01:47 9/11 Anniversary Reflections* 08:13 US Open Late Nights* 12:06 iPhone Fold and AI Assistants* 37:56 Safetyism And Risk Culture* 42:59 China Race And Trust Gap* 50:00 Practical Risks And Prep* 01:02:11 Analog Revival And Community* 01:10:35 Good Product* 01:14:24 Episode Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com