Checking in on the State of Appsec in 2025 - Janet Worthington, Sandy Carielli - ASW #338

Segment 1: Interview with Monzy Merza - There is a Right and Wrong Way to use AI in the SOC In the rush to score AI funding dollars, a lot of startups build a basic wrapper around existing generative AI services like those offered by OpenAI and Anthropic. As a result, these services are expensive, and don't satisfy many security operations teams' privacy requirements. This is just the tip of the iceberg when discussing the challenges of using AI to aid the SOC. In this interview, we'll dive into the challenge of finding security vendors that care about security, the need for transparency in products, the evolving shared responsibility model, and other topics related to solving security operations challenges. Segment 2: Topic Segment - How much AI is too much AI? In the past few weeks, I've talked to several startup founders who are running into buyers that aren’t allowed to purchase their products, even though they want them and prefer them over the competition. Why? No AI and they’re not allowed to buy. Segment 3: News Segment Finally, in the enterprise security news, We cover the latest funding The Trustwave saga comes to a positive end Android 16 could help you evade law enforcement Microsoft is kicking 3rd party AV out of the kernel Giving AI some personality (and honesty) Log4shell canaries reveal password weirdness Denmark gives citizens copyright to their own faces to fight AI McDonald’s has an AI whoopsie Ingram Micro has a ransomware whoopsie Drama in the trailer lock industry All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-415

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This week in the security news: Citrixbleed 2 and so many failures Ruckus leads the way on how not to handle vulnerabilities When you have no egress Applocker bypass So you bought earbuds from TikTok More gadgets and the crazy radio Cheap drones and android apps Best Mario Kart controller ever VSCode: You're forked Bluetooth earbuds and vulnerabilities Do you remember Sound blaster cards? NFC passport chips Whack-a-disk Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/psw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/psw-882

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Appsec still deals with ancient vulns like SQL injection and XSS. And now LLMs are generating code along side humans. Sandy Carielli and Janet Worthington join us once again to discuss what all this new code means for appsec practices. On a positive note, the prevalence of those ancient vulns seems to be diminishing, but the rising use of LLMs is expanding a new (but not very different) attack surface. We look at where orgs are investing in appsec, who appsec teams are collaborating with, and whether we need security awareness training for LLMs. Resources: https://www.forrester.com/blogs/application-security-2025-yes-ai-just-made-it-harder-to-do-this-right/ Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-338

Single Sign On (SSO) and Multi Factor Authentication (MFA) is critical to secure operations for companies of all sizes. Why is the foundation of cybersecurity still locked behind enterprise licensing? Single Sign-On (SSO) and Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) are essential—not optional—for protecting modern businesses. But today, these critical tools are overpriced, overcomplicated, and reserved for companies that can afford to overpay and have full-time security teams. That’s broken. Cubeless is tearing down the barriers. With Cubeless Verify, we’re delivering SSO and MFA that anyone can use—no IT army required. No hidden fees. No contracts. No catch. Just enterprise-grade security made simple, and free forever. The gatekeepers had their turn. Now it’s yours. Go to https://securityweekly.com/cubelessidv to start using Cubeless Identity today. As AI agents move beyond experiments to becoming critical internal and market-facing enterprise products, secure, scalable identity infrastructure becomes essential to achieve market-readiness. A lack of identity standards tailored specifically for AI agents, is creating a roadblock for developers. Existing infrastructure was not designed with autonomous agents in mind. How will identity standards need to evolve in order to meet the needs of an agent driven ecosystem? https://frontegg.com/product/frontegg-ai This segment is sponsored by Frontegg. Visit https://securityweekly.com/fronteggidv to learn more about them! Traditional IGA tools struggle to deliver full observability—and stall when it’s time to take action. Axonius Identities is changing that—bringing actionability to identity governance by embedding it into the broader cyber asset platform. In this session, CEO of AxoniusX, Amir Ofek shares how Axonius is modernizing IGA with real-time enforcement, unified asset-to-identity context, and a radically different approach to controlling access across dynamic environments. https://www.axonius.com/products/identities Axonius Blog: From Roles to Rules – An Access Paradigm Shift: https://www.axonius.com/blog/from-roles-to-rules Axonius Cybersecurity Asset Management Platform Overview: https://www.axonius.com/platform See how Axonius makes identity actionable. Visit https://securityweekly.com/axoniusidv. As enterprises are looking to rapidly deploy AI agents to drive innovation, they face an urgent need to secure this new "digital workforce" without hindering speed. Traditional security models weren't built for the unique identity and access demands of autonomous AI. This session will cut through the hype, address the real security concerns head-on, and outline a modern, cloud-native framework for managing privileged access for AI agents, ensuring your organization can innovate fast and stay secure. https://www.britive.com/use-cases/agentic-ai-security https://www.britive.com/resource/events/zero-standing-privileges-human-ai-nhi https://www.britive.com/resource/blog/agentic-ai-redefining-identity-security-cloud https://www.britive.com/resource/blog/owasp-vulnerabilities-llm-goes-rogue-navigating-corporate-chaos https://www.britive.com/resource/blog/agent-to-agent-access-security https://www.britive.com/resource/blog/genai-data-privacy-ip-protection https://www.britive.com/resource/blog/rethinking-nhi-cloud-security-strategies This segment is sponsored by Britive. Visit https://securityweekly.com/britiveidv to learn more about Britive's agentless cloud-native Privileged Access Management platform. As digital transformation accelerates and advanced threats evolve, industries of all kinds face rising pressure to secure identities, prevent fraud, and deliver seamless user experiences. Aware CEO Ajay Amlani shares how biometric technology is stepping up to meet these challenges—providing fast, accurate, and scalable solutions that strengthen security while reducing friction. Discover how biometrics is reshaping the identity landscape and enabling trust in an increasingly complex world. https://www.aware.com/blog/ This segment is sponsored by Aware. Visit https://securityweekly.com/awareidv to learn more about them! As threat landscapes grow more complex and stakeholder expectations rise, organizations must reimagine their approach to cyber resilience and trust. This interview will explore how artificial intelligence is transforming cybersecurity—from identifying vulnerabilities in real time to automating response and aligning security initiatives with broader business goals. Join us for a forward-looking discussion on what it means to lead with AI, earn digital trust, and create a resilient enterprise that’s built to withstand tomorrow’s threats. This segment is sponsored by SDG. Visit https://securityweekly.com/sdgidv to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-414

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This week, we dive into the world of Meshtastic and LoRa—two technologies empowering secure, long-range, and infrastructure-free communication. We'll talk about the origins of Meshtastic, how LoRa radio works, and why mesh networking is revolutionizing off-grid messaging for adventurers, hackers, emergency responders, and privacy advocates alike. We break down the available hardware, walk you through firmware installation, and share real-world use cases of LoRa to create decentralized, encrypted networks. Whether you’re a hacker, a prepper, or just curious about the future of resilient communication, this episode is packed with insights and practical tips you won’t want to miss! This segment is sponsored by ThreatLocker. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/threatlocker to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/psw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/psw-881

New research estimates the value of Zero Trust. Using the Marsh McLennan Cyber Risk Intelligence Center’s proprietary cyber losses dataset from the past eight years, researchers estimated that overall cyber losses could have been potentially reduced by up to 31% had the organizations widely deployed zero-trust security. This adds up to a projected reduction of up to $465 billion in global annual total economic losses. But Zero Trust projects have struggled due to complexity. Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer at ThreatLocker, joins Business Security Weekly to discuss the simplicity of Zero Trust Endpoint Protection and how it can drive value. Rob will discuss how the ThreatLocker® Zero Trust Endpoint Protection Platform offers a unified approach to protecting users, devices, and networks with ease of deployment and management. Zero Trust doesn't have to be complex. This segment is sponsored by ThreatLocker. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/threatlocker to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/bsw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/bsw-402