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Host Scott Rettberg sits down with Jakob Kusnick to explore data visualization, cultural heritage, and the Narrative Nubs project. Championing the value of "artisanal handcrafted code" in an era where everyone is "pouring everything against or into a large language model," Jakob discusses resurrecting early, pre-neural story generators like TALE-SPIN and TAILOR to unpack how narrative was modeled before LLMs.
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