153: 13 Billion Tokens

Ian and Aaron discuss a short-lived Laravel New, Aaron's first onsite with the marketing team, a successful trip to Philly, the seemingly inevitable security apocalypse, and more.Sponsored by Svix, Maileroo, Bento, PostShiba, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Ian's Laravel New didn't last (24:13) - Laravel Offsite (35:06) - Everybody's Orbin' (42:13) - Got The Cash (50:07) - Follow Up - Are People Actually Replacing SaaS? (58:18) - Are Companies Rational Economic Actors? (01:06:26) - Operation Batten Down The Hatches (01:18:07) - Outro! Dot FM! Links:ObsidianClaude DuetFirecrawlTerry Black’s BarbecueJoe T. Garcia’sMafia (party game)CatanGhosttyAmp OrbsSoloPHP×PhillyMary PerryEff1-900-Ice-CreamLess Annoying CRMStartup to LastNorth Korea linked to $6.3B Binance hackOutro

Ian and Aaron talk about Aaron's talk at Resend Forward, Ian's trip to the World Series, the PHPocalypse, Ian's dream job, and so much more.Sponsored by Svix, Maileroo, Bento, PostShiba, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Hello Brewers Man (09:56) - Aaron's Trip to SF (28:18) - Ian's Dream Job (40:21) - Inside Baseball (43:16) - The PHPocolypse (01:00:17) - Indie Hacker Brainworm (01:03:21) - Found Money (01:14:22) - An Update on Aaron's Book (01:34:39) - Marketing Offsite Links:Brewers go up 2-0 in the World SeriesSal FrelickLaravel Founders Panel at AccelResend ForwardAaron’s talk at Resend ForwardLaravel CloudAccelThe Atlantic: “If Anything Happens to This Guy … Everyone Is Screwed”stealmybitcoin.comBrotli CVE-2026-111497Ruby’s level 10 CVEAaron’s bound bookFire & Blood by George R. R. Martin

Ian and Aaron talk about Laravel New'ing....again....and what that means for Outro, plus huge updates coming to Solo, Aaron's generative universe, and more.Sponsored by Svix, Maileroo, Bento, PostShiba, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Ian's Still Sick (03:59) - Laravel New? (19:49) - Pricing for Outro 2.0 (30:38) - More on Outro 2.0 (37:38) - Solo on Linux (42:54) - Headless Solo (50:15) - GUI Chats? (58:57) - Aaron's Generative Universe (01:23:20) - OpenCode Was Hacked Links:Ian’s tweet about laravel newToken TownOutroSoloOpenCode getting hackedDaybreak BlueYubiKey

Ian and Aaron discuss Ian's trip to NYC to see the Amp crew, Aaron's weekend getaway, fighting online with Jesse Bentley, and craziest of all - should Ian 'Laravel New' Outro?Sponsored by Svix, Bento, PostShiba, Laracon AU, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Rocks In The Stream (16:15) - Orbin In Person (24:54) - Aaron's First Internet Business (40:42) - Giant Buttons (43:49) - Jesse & Ian Are Fighting (52:54) - Operation Double (01:05:23) - 'Laravel New' Outro? (01:11:18) - Resets Links:Broken Bow, OklahomaAmp & OrbsIan’s Orbin shirtDaybreakThesis: 2027 (Every)acct229.comacct2031.comLaravel Cloud CLIJesse’s tweet on pricingJason Cohen’s video on raising pricesAntoine’s tweet on Fernand cancellationsHelpSpot

Ian and Aaron discuss OpenAI's Dots, Aaron's trip to Denver, working with tests in the AI era, big things coming to Laravel, and a whole lot more.Sponsored by Svix, Bento, PostShiba, SerpAPI, Laracon AU, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - America, Coke Zero (07:14) - Aaron Went To Denver (09:58) - Big Things Coming To Laravel (18:46) - The Milwaukee Brewers (26:41) - A Reverse Epiphany (37:15) - Mini Motorways (46:45) - Dot & AI Agents (01:03:14) - Can AI Companies Make Money? (01:09:49) - Tests Links:America Coke Zero videoLaravel New videoAll-In PodcastRogue AmoebaLaravel NewsName.comMilwaukee BrewersMini MotorwaysDot by OpenAIPest Browser Testing

Ian and Aaron discuss Opus 5.5, Aaron's HomeOS, Ian's token usage, what's new with Aaron's office, and so much more.Sponsored by Svix, Bento, PostShiba, SerpAPI, Laracon AU, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Ian Loves Developers! (05:16) - I Have Become Aaron, Destroyer of Worlds (12:11) - Update on Aaron's Office (22:18) - Orbin & Mogging (26:36) - Update on Jev (31:19) - HomeOS (48:23) - Opus 5.5 (55:48) - The Best Time Ever To Raise Prices Links:Jesse HanleyClaude DesignOpus 5.5RMFGShapeokoIan's tweet on his token usageJevAaron's tweet about Home OSTillerPlaidYodleeCloudflare Durable ObjectsJason Lemkin

Ian and Aaron discuss the arrival of Jev, whether or not people should take microeconomics classes, Aaron's new office, raising prices, and so much more.Sponsored by Svix, Bento, PostShiba, Valorin Security, SerpAPI, Laracon AU, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Solo Parenting (09:00) - Ian's Very Mad About People on Twitter (17:12) - People Should Take Microeconomics (?) (31:04) - Aaron Is Leasing An Office! (45:22) - Jev! (01:04:56) - Should you charge more or less? Links:Torchy's TacosPapa John'sJon Yongfook's tweet on SaaS moats (retweeted by Aaron)MintlifyCursor's migration off Sanity (Lee Robinson)BannerbearX-CarveShapeokoJevCodexJesse Hanley's tweet on raising prices

Ian and Aaron talk about their trip to Vegas, what's cooking with Outro & Solo, Ian's travel woes, something called a Zoox, and so much more.Sponsored by Svix, Bento, PostShiba, Valorin Security, SerpAPI, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - A Weak Vocal Constitution (13:55) - CabanaConf Takeaways (21:36) - Build Bento on Bento? (28:18) - Burning Tokens for Solo (35:46) - Fixes for Outro (39:59) - Training a Model (48:30) - What if Solo had a universal agent? (01:00:46) - Ian's Travel Woes (01:07:38) - Aaron Took a Zoox Links:TailscaleOutroSolo19thLaravel AI SDKRivian self-drivingAaron's data structures and algorithms promptIan's tweet on moving from medium to high on AstraZoox

Ian and Aaron discuss the release of GPT-6 "Astra", building Solo for Linux, Ian's camera setup, why Outro isn't out yet, and so much more.Sponsored by Svix, Bento, DropInBlog, Valorin Security, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Happy Labor Day (03:02) - Rippin Astra Tokens (17:04) - Solo On Linux? (26:09) - 4000 Photos of Horses (41:04) - What's New With Outro? (49:27) - Aaron's Training a Model (01:00:32) - No More Astra Left (01:09:06) - Vegas, Baby. Vegas. Links:GPT-6 AstraBlenderElevenLabsAaron's tweet on the fantasy world he's buildingAaron's tweet on writing in-depth plans/specsOmarchyAaron's tweet on TailscaleIan's tweet with horse photosAmp OrbsLightroomEric Barnes' football photosIan's tweet on the Sony 50-150mm f/2Viltrox AF 85mm f/2 EVO (Sony E)Sony FE 40mm f/2.5 GJason Cohen (A Smart Bear)Solo

Ian and Aaron discuss the release of Solo v0.10, Aaron's trip to Boise, Ian's trip to the fair, why Ian's all in on Orbs, and so much more.Sponsored by Bento, DropInBlog, Valorin Security, and Typesense.Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical?  Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Producer Steve Got Married! (07:53) - Aaron's Unifying Theory on Wedding Toasts (17:02) - Ian Went To The Fair (27:30) - Notion? (and Linear) (35:28) - Moats (40:40) - Solo's Huge New Release (55:41) - It's Orbin' Time (01:10:30) - Aaron's Credit Card Strategy (01:24:28) - Book Update Links:Aaron's wedding photo (Steve Tenuto's wedding)Steve Tenuto on XIan's tweet on moatsSoloAaron's Solo release threadAmp OrbsMatt Stenson on XAmex Gold CardAmex Platinum CardAwardWalletGreat Illustrated Classics