647 // Dean Mortensen Update & Trenny Gibson Final Thoughts

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna discuss the recent discovery of missing man Peter Degan from a pond in Shirley, Massachusetts. He was found dismembered and his death is being investigated as a homicide. Peter Degan began serving a prison sentence in February of 2019 at a medium security prison in Shirley, Massachusetts. Mr. Degan was released on February 6th, 2026 and was living in a pre release center in Rockland, MA. The last time he was seen alive was in Rockland on February 27th, 2026 and he was found in Phoenix Pond in Shirley, Massachusetts on March 4th, 2026. If you have any information in the disappearance and murder of Peter Degan please submit a tip to the Massachusetts State Police at 1-800-494-TIPS or via text messaging, by sending the word "TIP" to CRIME (27463). Don't miss our live show in New York City on April 25th, 2026: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/criminally-stupid-the-search-for-the-worlds-dumbest-criminal-tickets-1984625623665. Sources: Middlesex District Attorney's Office Official Press Release: Human Remains Located in Shirley Identified CBS News Boston (WBZ-TV): Man found cut into pieces in Shirley pond recently released from prison Boston 25 News: Body parts found in Mass. pond are those of convicted drug dealer, DA says WCVB Channel 5 Boston: DA: Body parts found by students in Mass. pond identified WHDH 7News Boston: Remains found in Shirley identified as 69-year-old man living in Rockland Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Laura Riste about the mysterious disappearance of Dean Mortensen from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on January 24, 1992. Later, Tim and Lance share some final thoughts on their conversation with Laura about Trenny Gibson's disappearance from the Great Smoky Mountain National Park on October 8th, 1976. Full interview w/ Laura on Dean Mortensen was published on Missing on September 15th, 2025. Check out Laura Riste's site on the disappearance of Trenny Gibson: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.canadiangurl77.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Laura's FB page for Trenny: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/searching.for.trenny⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Laura on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/laurariste⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Michael C. Bouchard's new book on Trenny Gibson's disappearance: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/TRENNY-Disappearance-Trenny-Lynn-Gibson/dp/B0FTLY6937⁠. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠. TT:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠. FB:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠. X:⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠. Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠. Youtube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠. Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. TT:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠. FB:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. X:⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠ Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠. Youtube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠. Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Laura Riste about the mysterious disappearance of Trenny Gibson from the Great Smokey Mountain National Park on October 8th, 1976. Check out Laura Riste's site on the disappearance of Trenny Gibson: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.canadiangurl77.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Laura's FB page for Trenny: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/searching.for.trenny⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Laura on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/laurariste⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Michael C. Bouchard's new book on Trenny Gibson's disappearance: https://www.amazon.com/TRENNY-Disappearance-Trenny-Lynn-Gibson/dp/B0FTLY6937. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. X: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447. Follow Crawlspace: IG: https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast. X: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, ⁠Crawlspace Media⁠'s Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with retired FBI special agent and author Geoffrey Kelly about his new book, ⁠Thirteen Perfect Fugitives⁠, about the 1990 Gardner Museum heist in Boston, Massachusetts. Geoff was head of the Gardner investigation for the FBI for many years and after his recent retirement he wrote this outstanding book. Check it out wherever you get your books! Links below. ⁠https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives/Geoffrey-Kelly/9798895653173⁠. ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives-Murder-Largest/dp/B0FDGTZJH9⁠. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Kensington Publishing: ⁠⁠https://www.kensingtonbooks.com⁠⁠. The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna discuss the mysterious disappearance of Cleashindra Denise Hall from Pine Bluff, Jefferson County, Arkansas on May 9th, 1994. If you have any information in Clea's disappearance please submit a tip by calling the Pine Bluff Police Dept at 870-543-5112. This episode was researched by Kathleen Studer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Cleashindra_Hall https://www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/1142?nav https://charleyproject.org/case/cleashindra-denise-hall newspapers.com https://www.thv11.com/unsolved-clea-hall https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/family-of-cleashindra-hall-still-hopes-for-answers-nearly-30-years-after-her-disappearance/ https://www.thv11.com/article/news/local/missing-persons-reports/pine-bluff-mom-searching-answers-daughter-disappearance/91-07d431c7-0545-4a36-b555-451063523fdc https://katv.com/archive/missing-girls-mother-demands-justice-from-pine-bluff-police https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012/may/10/pb-police-investigate-delay-missing-teens-case/ https://katv.com/archive/update-police-search-home-after-receiving-tip-about-1994-cold-case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Bluff,_Arkansas Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, renowned doctor and foremost expert on gaslighting, Dr. Robin Stern. The conversation proves to be amongst the most important ones aired. Dr. Stern breaks down the nuances of gaslighting and how people use that tactic to manipulate relationships of all kinds to further their own agendas. This episode was previously published on Crawlspace on February 18th, 2026. Check out everything Dr. Stern has going on: ⁠Home - Robin Stern Robin Stern https://robinstern.com⁠ Listen to Dr. Stern's podcast: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1XdjMoLzr9s0T8QIvXThn0?si=25729f29c93949bb⁠ ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gaslight-effect-podcast/id1645322193⁠ And pick up your copies of Dr. Stern's books: The Gaslight Effect ⁠https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-gaslight-effect-how-to-spot-and-survive-the-hidden-manipulation-others-use-to-control-your-life-dr-robin-stern/aa1d51d5eb5b0518?ean=9780767924467&next=t⁠ The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide ⁠https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/702846/the-gaslight-effect-recovery-guide-by-dr-robin-stern/⁠ Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders ⁠https://hep.gse.harvard.edu/9781682538647/emotional-intelligence-for-school-leaders/⁠ Dr. Stern is also the co-founder and associate Director for the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence: ⁠https://medicine.yale.edu/childstudy/services/community-and-schools-programs/center-for-emotional-intelligence/⁠ Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new two part episode, ⁠Crawlspace Media⁠'s Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Dawn McCarty about her upcoming memoir titled Sealed To My Abductor. This is a wild journey of how Dawn was abducted from her father by her estranged mother. This is part two of two. Follow all of Dawn's work: ⁠https://linktr.ee/dawnmccarty⁠. IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/iamdawnmccarty⁠. YT: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2nZ6h4Rbg⁠. Sealed to My Abductor links: ⁠https://linktr.ee/UnsealedPress⁠. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠. TT:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠. FB:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠. X:⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠. Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠. Youtube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠. Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. TT:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠. FB:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. X:⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠ Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠. Youtube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠. Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new two part episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Dawn McCarty about her upcoming memoir titled Sealed To My Abductor. This is a wild journey of how Dawn was abducted from her father by her estranged mother. This is part one of two. Follow all of Dawn's work: https://linktr.ee/dawnmccarty. IG: https://www.instagram.com/iamdawnmccarty. YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2nZ6h4Rbg. Sealed to My Abductor links: https://linktr.ee/UnsealedPress. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. X: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447. Follow Crawlspace: IG: https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast. X: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by a round table of guests, all of whom had a hand in the production of the amazing 3 part docu-series from ABC & Hulu, The Scream Murder: A True Teen Horror Story. Cassie Jo Stoddart, a 16-year-old high school junior, was a victim of a thrill killing in Pocatello, Idaho on September 22, 2006, while pet sitting her aunt and uncle’s dogs at their home. Directors Conor McCarthy, Patrick Rogers & Ex. Prod. Lisa Wolfinger join. Watch The Scream Murder on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-scream-murder-a-true-teen-horror-story-11ffe09a-2619-4124-8b83-b5b453f56434. This episode was previously published on Crawlspace on February 11th, 2026. Check out what Lone Wolf Media's site: https://www.lonewolfmedia.com/. YT: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZRCv5Qn2Vpw_OR17N41CVA⁠. IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/lone_wolf__media/⁠. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with renown forensic criminologist Dr. Laura Pettler about the mysterious abduction of Nancy Guthrie from her home in Catalina Foothills, Arizona on February 1st, 2026. Check out all of Laura's work at https://laurapettler.com/. Follow Laura on social media: IG: https://www.instagram.com/drlaurapettler. FB: https://www.facebook.com/drlaurapettler. YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW41wx0eEHltD41uTFmQx7g. X: https://x.com/drlaurapettler. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at ⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at ⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. X: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447. Follow Crawlspace: IG: https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast. X: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices